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UMAB (www.umaryland.edu) houses the Law School, Med School and other graduate campuses for schools not located at college park.

I was referring to undergraduate school. Only one school may refer to itself solely as the "University of Maryland" without mention of campus. That school is UMCP:

For graduate school, the Law and Medical school may refer to themselves as UMD even though they are in Baltimore. This is because they are not offered on the main campus. This is like Berkeley's "Med School" actually being at UCSF for example.

Please refer to:

http://www.urhome.umd.edu/newsdesk/media/identityguide.pdf

I didn't make the rules--I am only relaying them.

 

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"You realize, of course that second one is redirected. "

Yes. www.maryland.edu, www.umcp.umd.edu and www.umd.edu all go to the same website. The website for the University of Maryland (at College Park)


"What about this website that so brazenly suggests that it is U of Maryland?

www.umaryland.edu/"

Actually it is--for Med and Law School. See UMAB has few if any undergraduate programs. It is largely a professional school for the stae's Medical and Legal professions. Its GRADUATE programs are allowed to use the term "University of Maryland" without mention of the word baltimore since there is no overlap with the flagship campus in College Park.

However for Undergrad, Engineering, MBA etc etc, all undergrad and graduate "University of Maryland" schools are located at College Park.

Please read the identity guide if you are confused. University of Maryland Eastern Shore, Frostburg State, UMBC and UMUC are all member schools of the USMD. UMUC derives its name because initially it was the continuig ed arm of UMD until it spun off as its own University in nearby Adelphi in the 1940's.

 

Heh. I love it. Next time someone asks me what "anal retentive" means, I shall point him/her to this thread.

Heheheheheheh.

 

Ox,

Perhaps I am a bit anal retentive. Considering that my best friend was fired for "misrepresenting" their educationl credentials (stated he had an MS in IS from the University of Maryland -- actually it turned out it was from UMUC), I don't think you can be too careful. I too didn't think much of the distinction between the two schools until that story was relayed to me.

Just my thoughts--but it's a free country. In my opinion any RA school in Maryland offers a solid education -- some are just more marketable I guess.

The moral is--if you go to UMUC, better mention the words "University College" on your CV.

 

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While you might fool some people into believing an MBA from UMUC http://www.umuc.edu/grad/mba/

is as marketable as one from UMD:

http://www.rhsmith.umd.edu

You aren't fooling the recruiters. Just be clear about what you're buying. The University of Maryland University College and the University of Maryland (College Park) [or UMAB Law and Medicine] are very very different schools. [/B][/QUOTE]

I don't recall anyone here suggesting that the MBA programs are equal. It appears that you are being called snobbish because you jump all over everyone that refers to UMUC as Maryland even if the same post includes the correct website.

The guide you linked was written as a guide to the media, not a legal guide to how one must always refer to other universities that happen to include "University of Maryland" in their name regardless of context.

The context of this discussion group is distance education. As UMUC is the distance education of arm of the system, the use of "University of Maryland," particular when it accompanied with the correct URL logically refers to the University of Maryland, University College.

BTW, while you are waiving that identity guide around you might want to email the link to the USM website because they apparently haven't read it. Your guide specifically states that the "University of Maryland" should never be refered to as it location: University of Maryland, College Park, yet the USM institution list lists "University of Maryland, College Park.

 

There had to be more to the story then that. Omission of the words "University College" could easily be dismissed as a typo. However, if you friend purposely implied that went to UMCP, I can see an employer being upset. Particular if it was discovered during their hiring process. But if your friend were already employed with the company for some time, it more likely that something else came up that lead to him being fired and that "lying in his resume" was just the official excuse given.

I find it highly unlikely most employers are going to go though the terrible of fact checking a resume at random for established employees.

 

Thanks for your comments. Let me address them, KESCA:

"The guide you linked was written as a guide to the media, not a legal guide to how one must always refer to other universities that happen to include "University of Maryland" in their name regardless of context."

Actually there is a legal basis. In 1997 the State General Assembly passed a LAW that states exactly what that identity guide is saying -- that except for the Law and Medical Schools in Baltimore, all programs that can be referred to solely as "University of Maryland" are based at what is known internally as "The University of Maryland College Park".

"The context of this discussion group is distance education. As UMUC is the distance education of arm of the system, the use of "University of Maryland," particular when it accompanied with the correct URL logically refers to the University of Maryland, University College. "

Again this is not precisely correct. UMUC is not the only school that offers DL in the USMD. UMD does as well, and the few DL degrees it offers are UMD, not UMUC degrees:

http://www.enfp.umd.edu/
For example, a link to UMD's Fire Protection Masters degree.

"BTW, while you are waiving that identity guide around you might want to email the link to the USM website because they apparently haven't read it. Your guide specifically states that the "University of Maryland" should never be refered to as it location: University of Maryland, College Park, yet the USM institution list lists "University of Maryland, College Park."

Actually the Identity Guide clearly states UMD may use its formal name in internal memoranda or in correspondence related to the USMD community. The University of Maryland College Park is the formal name for the University of Maryland as you know from reading the article. UMES, UMUC, UMBC etc mention their full names or abreviations in all correspondence and even on the degrees themselves.

"I don't recall anyone here suggesting that the MBA programs are equal. It appears that you are being called snobbish because you jump all over everyone that refers to UMUC as Maryland even if the same post includes the correct website. "

Fair enough. I guess it hits home because a friend of mine was fired from a job for not mentioning the words "University College" on his degree in CV format. I too did not realize the huge distinction, and taking heat from UMUC students for passing the info along is a price to pay I guess.

 

"There had to be more to the story then that. Omission of the words "University College" could easily be dismissed as a typo. However, if you friend purposely implied that went to UMCP, I can see an employer being upset. Particular if it was discovered during their hiring process. But if your friend were already employed with the company for some time, it more likely that something else came up that lead to him being fired and that "lying in his resume" was just the official excuse given.

I find it highly unlikely most employers are going to go though the terrible of fact checking a resume at random for established employees."

Actually, the firm (a prestigious Management Consultancy in Boston hint hint) does exactly that on a monthly audit basis: they check out the CV's of their Analysts and Associates to the tee.

He "unintentionally" misrepresented his quals. He stated:

M.S. blah blah--- University of Maryland
College Park, MD

In fact he did it to get a leg up on recruiting, in my opinion.

It amounted to "Possible Misrepresentation" legalese for exactly what you suggest -- firing an employee based on economic or other factors.

In fact, while he took a number of classes with UMUC AT COLLEGE PARK and at other schools like UMBC, the degree is actually conferred in ADELPHI MD and the name of the school was abbreviated to match exactly the format used by graduates of another school--UMCP. He claims it was unintentional, but misrepresentation. I am not so sure but I sympathize with him.

It should have read:

M.S. blah blah--- University of Maryland University College
Adelphi, MD

But then he may never have gotten the interview in the first place.

 

Your friend did more than just omit "University College." He/she also explicitly wrote "College Park." And (although College Park is right next door to UMUC) this looks like evidence of an intent to mislead.

 

Yea I agree with you. At best it is honest misrepresentation because he is essentially saying he went to UM (College Park) not UM(UC)

 

University of Maryland ranked #1 in receiving Air Force TA

"The top five institutions ranked by amount of tuition assistance collected from the Air Force in FY02 were:

1. University of Maryland
2. Embry-Riddle Aeronautical
3. Wayland Baptist University
4. Park University
5. University of Phoenix"

http://www.detc.org/content/77th_conference.html#mil

I completed one UMUC class at Kadena AFB in 1989. My transcript simply says "University of Maryland" which is centered, the words "Asian Division" are printed in the righthand corner.

 

The actual degree does say, in big letters the full name "University of Maryland University College" if you earn a degree from UMUC whether from AD or stateside.

If you earn a degree from UMBC it says "University of MD Baltimore County" in big letters.

If you earn one from UMCP it simply says "University of Maryland" on the degree.

 

Perhaps they did not heed UMUC's advise (as seen on any of their press releases):

"Please include the complete name University of Maryland University College (or the acronym UMUC). Abbreviating the name might create confusion with other University System of Maryland institutions."

BTW, I went to UMBC and my transcripts also said U of Maryland. Of course, like UMUC and the words "University College", my actual degree has the words "Baltimore County" on it. I guess each of the schools in the USMD are very separate compared to other state systems like the UC system or say the IU system.

For example. Even UC Riverside sutdents get the same degree as Berkeley Students: "University of California". The only difference is "Conferred in: <city name>" Of course, you have to mention which campus you got the degree or if it was extension, but the degrees look much the same and come from the same "Multiversity" in a sense even if employers don't see UC Riverside or Berkeley as being the same "University of California".

 

This seems like a case of outright dishonesty, since he actually misrepresented the location. It seems to me that if he'd tried to leave off the "University College" part, but included the correct location, as in "University of Maryland - Adelphi, MD," then he might have avoided being called on it. I'd probably be tempted to do that myself, but in the end I think that I'd just go ahead and put the "University College" on it, just to avoid any perception of being misleading. I wouldn't consider it dishonest to leave off the "University College" though, as long as the location is identified as Adelphi. This is a lot like the IU vs. IUPUI situation. I think that it would be fine to just put IU, rather than IUPUI, on a resume, as long as the location is identified as Indianapolis rather than Bloomington. I always thought that it was expected to include the location along with the institution name on a resume, but maybe that's not the case. If the location were left off, my first question would be: "which campus?"

 

"University of Maryland - Adelphi, MD," then he might have avoided being called on it."

I agree. Interestingly, part of the confusion with UMUC is that you can take many UMUC classes on the campus of UMD(UMCP) in College Park, and, in effect, Adelphi is adjacent to UMCP and the city line.

UMUC admin was instrumental in helping ensure the admin building for UMUC was in a different city (they were among petitioners to expand the Adelphi city limit) to help avoid the confusion with its nearby neighbor on its conferred degree(!). But you could feasibly walk from UMUC to UMD in 15 minutes.

The only solution would be to put the full name of the school to avoid the censure my friend Pat got as well as Adelphi.

With respect to IUPUI, it is a little different -- it is common practice to state IU-Indianapolis just as it is common to sau PU-Indy. It is home to a well-reputed IUI Law school that is separate from Bloomington's law school but just as reputable. Indylaw as it is known is pretty close to equal footing in terms of reputation with the law school at Bloomington. But they are also different schools that require disclosure of campus location.