In Major Defeat for Trump, Push to Repeal Health Law Fails

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  1. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator

  2. Abner

    Abner Well-Known Member

    That's yuge! I thought he said he was going to make a beautiful deal. And they have the super majority!
     
  3. me again

    me again Well-Known Member

    It's yuge!

    The supporters of President Donald Trump are extraordinarily pleased with what happened -- and with what will continue to happen under Trump's magnificent leadership. The United States is royally blessed by God to have Trump as our president. Blessings from above just keep coming.
     
  4. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator

  5. me again

    me again Well-Known Member

  6. Abner

    Abner Well-Known Member

  7. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    Well, Americans were blessed by the failure of Trump's RINOcare bill. He can't even get a bill passed by his own party's legislators! What a loser! :loser:
     
  8. me again

    me again Well-Known Member

    RINOcare bill is an Obamacare Trojan horse

    The RINOcare bill is an Obamacare Trojan horse and, in that context, it is good that it did not pass. The best way to get rid of Obamacare is to let it implode financially. However, if Obamacare implodes on the GOP watch, then will the Republicans get blamed for it if (or when) it becomes too expensive to buy? Will the GOP own Obamacare's failure, when Republicans could have repealed it and replaced it with RINOcare?

    Learning the ways and means of politics is a learning process. Again, it is a blessing that RINOcare did not pass, but if Obamacare implodes, Republicans may be blamed for it i.e. Republicans may own it politically.
     
  9. Maniac Craniac

    Maniac Craniac Moderator Staff Member

    Then again, maybe the plan all along was to propose a bill that had no chance of passing so that when Obamacare fails, he can blame Democrats and claim that he tried his best to stop it.
     
  10. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    If so then Trump is an even bigger fool than I thought, because his party controls Congress, so if they all just sit around with their heads in the sand waiting for Obamacare to fail, then Republicans as a whole will be rightfully blamed for being too useless to do anything about it.
     
  11. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    Then why did Donald J. Trump, who you have literally said was sent to us by God Himself, refer to it as the "World's Greatest Healthcare Plan of 2017"?

    No, the best way is to repeal it and replace it with a plan written by people who actually know their ass from a hole in the ground.

    Moreover, when the best strategy you can think up involves purposefully subjecting the American people to disruption of healthcare provision, you're no longer merely a fool who doesn't know what he's talking about, you cross the line to being an active threat.

    Don't you mean replaced by the World's Greatest Healthcare Plan of 2017?

    And rightly so, since they're the ones too weak and feckless to pass a bill in a legislature they control.
     
  12. me again

    me again Well-Known Member

    Only 7 years & 10 more months remaining in the Trump presidency

    What are your quantitative metrics to dispute his claim?

    Just because something is good doesn't mean it is prudent. A Cadillac Ciel Concept is an extraordinarily expensive and good looking car, but it's not right for an average American to go deep into debt for a luxury item, especially when a Ford F150 is more cost effective to finish a construction job.

    It is God who removes kings and sets up kings. (Psalms 2:20-21)

    It is God who executes judgment, putting down one and lifting up another. (Psalm 75:7)
     
  13. Abner

    Abner Well-Known Member

    OMG! There you go again. Can't you seem to figure out that you guys elected a non Christian completely devoid of morals? In the bible it talks about erecting false idols. Perhaps you should concern yourself more with Christ rather than Trump. And, no, I am not interested in turning this in to religious debate again. Anyone can memorize a bunch of bible quotes, but in the end, it's a man's actions that matter.
     
  14. Abner

    Abner Well-Known Member

  15. me again

    me again Well-Known Member

    Do not pronounce judgment before the time, before the Lord comes, who will bring to light the things now hidden in darkness and will disclose the purposes of the heart. Then every man will receive his commendation from God. (1 Cor. 4:5)

    Judge not, that you be not judged. For with the judgment you pronounce, you will be judged, and the measure you give will be the measure you get. Why do you see the speck that is in your brother’s eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye? (Matt. 7:1-3)

    Who are you to pass judgment on the servant of another? It is before his own master that he stands or falls. (Rom. 14:4)
     
  16. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    Yep, Stanislav called it. Whenever that imbecile you so foolishly support embarrasses you, to the point where even you can't find a way to defend him, you suddenly get a case of Scriptural Tourette's Syndrome.
     
  17. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator

    I'm the person who gets to cast a vote in our democratic republic. Making a judgment is built in to that process. BTW, wasn't that you passing judgment on Clinton and Obama just a few days, weeks, months, years ago. Hypocrite.
     
  18. me again

    me again Well-Known Member

    Kizmet, that's entirely different than salvifically judging:
    - who is or who is not a Christian
    - who is or is not going to heaven

    Kizmet, no, this writer did not pass salvific judgement on Clinton and Obama just a few days, weeks, months or years ago. On the contrary.

    "Blessed are you when men revile you and persecute you and utter all kinds of evil against you falsely on my account. Rejoice and be glad, for your reward is great in heaven, for so men persecuted the prophets who were before you." (Matt. 5:11-12)
     
  19. me again

    me again Well-Known Member

    The Word of God is sweet and juicy and everlasting! Proverbs says it this way:

    "For they are life to him who finds them, and healing to all his flesh. Keep your heart with all vigilance; for from it flow the springs of life. Put away from you crooked speech, and put devious talk far from you." (Prov. 4:22-24)
     
  20. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    “The devil can cite Scripture for his purpose.
    An evil soul producing holy witness
    Is like a villain with a smiling cheek,
    A goodly apple rotten at the heart.
    O, what a goodly outside falsehood hath!”

    ― William Shakespeare, The Merchant of Venice
     

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