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  1. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    Trump is being handled, not the other way around. And they have even less experience dealing with politics than he does.
     
    Rich Douglas, Dec 21, 2024
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  2. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    I definitely agree with this general sentiment. Although it is not quite true that NO ONE stays in Trump's good graces. They stay in Trump's good graces until he decides that there's nothing more that person can do for Trump then he "cuts them loose". For example, Putin is still in Trump's good graces. That is because it is best for Trump. There are also a few underlings that have stayed in Trump's good graces. Getting back directly to Elon Musk, Elon Musk will stay in Trump's good graces as long as Trump is getting something really good out of the deal or might get something really good. The richest man in the world spent a quarter of a billion dollars getting Trump elected. They could be having some discussions about how Musk might include Trump is some profitable enterprises at some point. If so this would definitely keep Musk in his good graces for the foreseeable future..
     
    Bill Huffman, Dec 21, 2024
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  3. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    Ah, but Musk is also completely transactional. He might dump Trump first.
     
    nosborne48, Dec 21, 2024
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  4. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    It's ironic, though. The thing Trump demanded (but didn't get) was to abolish or suspend the debt limit. He's right about that.
     
    nosborne48, Dec 21, 2024
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  5. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    Is Mike Johnson the only adult in the GOP House caucus?
     
    nosborne48, Dec 21, 2024
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  6. NotJoeBiden

    NotJoeBiden Active Member

    Define “adult” in this case.
     
    NotJoeBiden, Dec 21, 2024
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  7. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    While it's no surprise that the Party of Small Government wants to abolish the debt ceiling, they're wrong to do so.
     
    SteveFoerster, Dec 21, 2024
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  8. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    My objection the the statutory debt ceiling is that I think it's probably unconstitutional. Other than that, yes, I definitely see its utility.
     
    nosborne48, Dec 21, 2024
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  9. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    Well, shoot, that's fair. If you asked me where in Article I it constrains Congress at all when it comes to borrowing money, I have to admit that I'd be hard pressed to find it, especially when Section 8 authorizes Congress "To borrow money on the credit of the United States;" without elaboration.

    I just think about the economy that my kids will inherit and know that artificial restraint is a very good idea.
     
    SteveFoerster, Dec 21, 2024
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  10. sanantone

    sanantone Well-Known Member

    Trump is a narcissist. I don't think his ego can handle the accusations that Elmo is running the show. His team is already on CNN arguing that he's in charge, not Elmo.

    Jimmy Carter's attorney general created government shutdowns with his interpretation of an 1870 law.

    https://time.com/6326996/government-shutdown-history-2/
     
    sanantone, Dec 22, 2024
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  11. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    "Elmo"? I love it!
     
    nosborne48, Dec 22, 2024
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