Hypocrisy of UN!

So you justification is that because Hamas does it then Israel can do it?

 

You are totally wrong.
Hitler and Nazis was a murderer, Allies were liberators. Both killed people during war, but there was a big difference that you try to blur.
Hamas is murdering babies and civilians.
Israel is fighting the terrorists, in war people die.

 

How are babies terrorists?

 

They are not. Nor they are the target.
They are used by terrorits as human schields.
Hamas kills their own babies.
Hamas and Hezbollah are baby killers.
Hezbollah killed thousands of babies in Syria.

 

While I think that Israel has committed war crimes, this situation is more complicated than white vs brown. Firstly, it's difficult to tell many of the Israelis and Palestinians apart. Most of the Jews in Israel are Mizrahi. There have been tensions between Mizrahi Jews and Ashkenazi Jews (Ashkenazi Jews are privileged for being mixed with European), but Netanyahu's voter base primarily consists of Mizrahi Jews.

 

If you understood intersectionality you might understand that being against genocide is not the same as pro Hamas.

 

I think everyone who posts here is against genocide.
Hamas and terrorists propoganda, including Jihadi operations in all the countries abuse the term genocide and use it as political terror.
Especially with highly misinformed students at universities.

 

We also mustn’t forget that the U.N. is investigating charges against Israel for suspected genocide. Although I would like to add here that Israel has been more careful the last couple of months. Switching focus to the northern border I suspect is the reason.

 

The Hamas side has been much more successful at propaganda and messaging than the Israeli side. I heard college students talking that didn't seem to have a clue that Hamas was an evil horrible organization, for example.

 

Having children studying at different universities and their friends, relatives I personally witnessed increased activities on US campuses in hostility toward
Israeli speakers. Pro Palestinian groups, increased in activities, and size, sphere of influence, so since 2012 every year, I could tell how anti-Israel lobby was very active on campuses.They harassed Israeli speakers, caused many cancelations of events.
Radical anti-Israel activism on campus is driven primarily by Students for Justice in Palestine, a network of pro-Palestinian student groups across the U.S. that disseminate frequently inflammatory anti-Israel propaganda.
Radical anti-Israel rhetoric and activities on campus often emerged from Boycott, Divestment, and Sanctions campaigns against Israel
The groups are getting more violent and more radical each year.
While it is very likely that some of that criticism is an acceptable form of political discourse, some of the more radical expressions of anti-Israel sentiment create a hostile environment.
Calls, such as from the river to the sea - are clear genocidal calls to extermination of Israel, which is located between the sea and the river.
Those are not calls for let's live in co-existence and share the land. They are genocidal calls to destroy Israel.
And all the money that Hamas, Hezbollah takes, was invested in rockets, missiles, tunnels, bunkers, training of militants, with major purpose, to commit Genocide against Israeli people.
Iran race for the nuclear WMDs is all evil, and it has to be stopped.
Increased numbers of Suni Muslims in Lebanon, Christians and Druz are calling for the implementation of UN resolution that was accepted decades ago, to disarm all militany groups, to have one national army. Some of the Lebanese groups supporting Israel in reducing Hezbollah strength and grip on Lebanon.

 

Being against war crimes does not make one pro-Hamas. Some of the pro-Gaza activists, however, know exactly was Hamas is, but they're still rooting for them. In their own words, they believe extremism comes naturally and is justifiable after decades of apartheid.

Some of the pro-Gaza activists are anti-Semitic and some of them are not. What is not talked about enough is that some people are pro-Israel but anti-Semitic. There's quite a bit of anti-Semitic rhetoric that comes from the right, such as Marjorie Taylor Greene talking about Jewish space lasers, Candace Owens propagating every anti-Jew conspiracy theory, and Trump saying that he's going to blame Jews if he loses the election and previously tweeting Nazi symbols.

Why is part of the religious right pro-Israel but anti-Semitic? Some of them have bizarre beliefs on how the existence of Israel is necessary for fulfilling biblical prophecies. But, at the same time, they hate everyone who isn't Christian and/or isn't fully of European descent.

 

Hamas’s leader in Lebanon, who was killed in Lebanon, was working undercover as a teacher for the United Nations agency for Palestinian refugees.
Indoctrinating future generations of Israel haters.
Mr Sharif was suspended without pay by the United Nations Relief and Works Agency (UNRWA) in March as it investigated what it described as activities “that are in violation of the agency’s regulatory framework governing staff conduct”.
Sharif was responsible for coordinating relations between Hamas and Hezbollah in Lebanon.
UNWRA came under scrutiny for employing operatives taking part in the Hamas attack on Israel on Oct 7 that killed 1,200 people, allegations that prompted more than a dozen donors, including Britain, to withhold funding.

Following an investigation, UNRWA fired nine of its staff members in August after finding that they “may have been” involved in the massacre. Britain and the other donors, with the solitary exception of the United States, have since renewed funding.
UNWRA has 32,000 employees across its field of operations, most of them Palestinian.

 

It is a call for them to be able to live in their historic homeland. It was the Israeli government who committed an ethnic-cleaning during the Nakba to forcibly displace them. The Palestinians have since been subject to an Apartheid state. Now Israel is committing a genocide in the name of eliminating Hamas.

But ya, go complain about college students and “wokeness”.

 

I don't get what you mean by an Apartheid state? The Arabs living in Israel are treated fairly well. Israel does not rule the West Bank or Gaza.

The Nakba was a very sad chapter for the area. The only caution I have is that this was 1948. The world has just gotten through the horrible World War II and the world just found out about and was coming to terms with the holocaust. The UN maybe should have picked a different location for a Jewish state. Using hindsight I think it would have been far better. But they chose Palestine. This seems to be a pretty good article on the Nakba.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Causes_of_the_1948_Palestinian_expulsion_and_flight

 

Palestinians are treated like second class citizens in Israel. Amnesty International published an extensive report about the Apartheid in 2022:
https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/campaigns/2022/02/israels-system-of-apartheid/

 

Palestine is not fully independent, and Palestinians don't have citizenship in Israel. That's why it's called an apartheid state.

 

I guess they should have stayed in Jordan.
Actually, Israel was ready to return the West Bank to Jordan. Just keep Jerusalem.
Majority of Arabs in the West Bank accepted annexation to Jordan.

Arafat was given those lands to establish a state, even do it is known that it will be a hostile state, terror state, a type of Gaza.
So much of the things that Israel is doing is motivated by security considerations. But the policy of separation should be temporary, and a diplomatic solution should be eventually achieved.

As long as Arabs in those areas want to kill Israel, Israel will not change it policies. So I think what we have is an outcome of circumstances, most of them caused by Arab terrorism and basic Arab refusal to reach any kind of reasonable agreement that will establish at the end of the road a Palestinian states.

The situation is really that these people are tribal people, they have roots and local tribal leaders, so the best solution for this is 7 or 8 kingdoms, emirates.
Where local tribal leaders are in charge.
In the past Arabs of Hebron, didn't answer to leaders of Arabs of Gaza, or Genin.
All will have equal rights and a road to prosperity.
A lot of violence in Israeli Arab society is on the Tribal tensions, Hamulas.
Brother can kill sister for honor of the family, because she is being with a man from rival tribe.

The PA authority president, Abbas, is not welcome in those areas, he was imposed on them
He was from Safed not West Bank and has no significant connection to those parts of land.