Well the IDF just killed 569 people in Lebanon as of this posting. This includes 94 women and 50 children dead and nearly 2,000 injured. How can anyone find this acceptable? https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2024/09/24/lebanon-israel-hezbollah-conflict/
Thank you for demonstrating exactly what I was talking about. Israel is alienating people. Israel is playing right into Iran's trap.
Why are you one-sided? You only see the terrorist instigators side. You are sounding like one morning Israel woke up and decided it will bomb Lebanon? Since October 8, 2023, Hezbollah fired missiles, rockets at Israeli children and women, civilians and military alike. North Israel is destroyed, people evacuated. If not the Iron dome, and bomb shelters, you would be hearing of thousands of Israelis dead and injured. Unlike Israel, Hezbollah invested in rockets, and underground tunnels, bunkers and other infrastructure from where they can attack Israel. From the #s you just quoted, how many are Hezbollah terrorists? You know one of their tactics is to inflate the civilian casualties #s. Why are you not writing about Israeli damage, Hezbollah is firing on many cities in Israel? Israel didn't attack Lebanon, but Lebanon Hezbollah attacked Israel. Unfortunately for Lebanon, they are not preventing Hezbollah form shooting at Israel, more than that, the Shea population allowing Hezbollah to use their homes as launching sites for missiles. Israel gave sufficient warning so most that got killed are Terrorists and their supporters. In a war, people die. Don't start wars. And also I don't trust the Health ministry of Lebanon #s, not sure if he said it with Hezbollah holding gun to his head - not literary but, you know what I mean.
Did you have a little brother growing up? If so was it acceptable for you to do anything you wanted to your brother as long as he did it to you first? For example, if your little brother was mad at you and messed up your bed so that you had to make it again, was it okay for you to go into his room and break all of his toys? Lerner, you're wasting your breath. Israel doesn't have to bomb and kill everyone around them. You know that. Hezbollah is a puppet of Iran, as is Hamas. Hezbollah said as long as there is no ceasefire in Gaza they will keep bombing Israel. As you admit most of the missiles are stopped by the Iron Dome protecting Israel. They have their marching orders from Iran. This war has been going on for almost a year now. You are wasting your time because practically the whole world is thinking about this the same way as NotJoeBiden and myself. If I understand correctly even many of the citizens of Israel are growing weary of the war. Israel alienation is worldwide.
Israel existance is threatened by Hamas and Hezballah, Iran and Syria. Those Iraninan sponsored, installed armies goal is destruction of Israel. I have no effect of Israels policy. I just voice opinion, that's all. You don't understand Middle East mentality. It's vary religious, spiritual, tribal etc. Suffering for someone like Sinuar, is ordained by his god, long suffering of people is viewed as submission to the will of god What happened to Christians and other infidels in Lebanon, is going to happen here. I will repeat, Israel is bombing rocket launching sites. They in last years gathered alot of intelligence, and have an execution plan, in Lebanon. Hezbollah, will be delt and Iran is also. Israeli submarines, not regular ones, are on a mission. I will repeat, it appears Iran wants to buy time so they are pretending at UN. But maybe there can be agreement that will put am end to the escalating war. As to my little brother, he was harassed at school, until one day he stood for himself. In middle east, if one rises to destroy you, arise first and destroy them. Only strong survives there.
You keep missing the point, this behavior by Israel is playing right into Iran's hands. Give me a break! It is absolutely ridiculous to claim that the Hezbollah missiles have threatened Israel's existence! In just a few days I suspect that Israel has already killed more people in Lebanon than Hezbollah has killed in the past year in Israel. Doesn't that sound ridiculous?
Bill, you completely misunderstanding the might of Hezbollah. Israeli surprised attak of thousands of commanders, and intelligence gathered over the years gave advantage for now. But 150,000 to 200,000 missiles, rockets and drones, can bring huge damage, like a nuke bomb to small Israel. Think. Israel took out communication and commanders. And now taking out major launching and rocket, missiles, amo depots sites. You see to not understanding or on purpose minimizing huge existential threat to make Israel look wrong. Israel has no choice, and Iran is next. Maybe some deal still posible. All sides are ripe for deal.
Israel’s response is not reasonable. Were those women or children Terrorists? What about those “military aged-men”? Sure if Israel were to kill everyone in a country then inevitably they would kill all the terrorists, but that is not a reasonable thing to do. Israel is escalating the issue. As Bill said, Netanyahu is on the verge of destroying Israel.
You answer is deceptive, you didn't address any of the points made in previous post. And again, there woman and children in Israel as well. You seen what happened is Syria, where Hezballa bombed Syrian woman and children, how many thousands killed? I wish, honestly that there was a way to destroy Misiles, and Hezballah terrorists without a single civilian catualty. But reality is different. Israel is simple. Peace for peace. War for war. There is very different mentality in the Middle East. If anything Israel is doing favor to Lebanon, and the world.
This sounds like someone with a intersectionality worldview in which Israelis are just "colonizers" and anything bad that happens to any of them is a victory for "justice". I'm guessing this person's on the younger side and spends way too much time online, because that's what we're seeing in the anti-Israeli campus protests: people smart enough to memorize all the talking points, but too naïve to think about them critically.
That may be true but is an excellent example of what is at play here. Israel appears to many as a big bully, destroyed Gaza and now starting to destroy Lebanon. The world view of Israel is bad and getting worse. This is bad for Israel.
Responding to terrorist by committing worse retaliatory terrorism is not justified. Israel is committing war crimes. That is a fact. Israel has also been systematically treating Palestinians as second class citizens for decades, leading to radicalization and the formation of Hamas. Israel has always held the power here, and now they are using it to commit what appears to be an ethnic cleansing. This is not just my analysis, but also the analysis of various other governments, NGOs, and experts.
Bad for Israel but being under attack from multiple fronts is much worse. Hezballa and Hamas will only ask for a cease fire when there are no more rockets. They will then recover and start this all over again. Not for me to say, but I trust Israel will not fall for this, if they ask for a cease fire. Iranian president in UN was a pick of hypocrisy. I'm sure naive people will fall for Iran's lies. Israel Hasbarah need to work harder. Still wile it's holding by a thread, there is no full blown war and maybe there is a diplomatic solution. That will allow Israel to build strong military that can address future wars.
You again misleading. Israel is absolutely not commiting retaliatory terrorism. If it was, you would have like in Syria, hundreds thousands catualties. In Syria Islamists killed 500,000 people, including 5000+ Palestinians. You logic is deceptive because war forced on Israel, and there is no war without catualties. Especially against monsters who kill their own people. Syria is perfect example. War is horible, people die and suffer. Make peace not war. Let me remind you what Muslim Brotherhood did to Saadat of Egypt for making peace with Israel. War for war, Peace for peace. Israel provides advance evacuation nottice and time to evacuate. Unlike the monsters in Lebanon. Israel is protecting its citizens, Jesus, Arabs, etc. Hezballa amd Hamas do the opposite. They use their civilians as human shields.
Israel exists in an area surrounded by enemies. However Iran is the puppet master of the worst. Some neighbors were on the verge of improving relations with Israel. Which I’ve always guessed is part of the reason Hamas attacked on October 7. Lerner I think your mindset is stuck in paranoia a bit, as is the far right wing Israeli government. Israel needs the world on their side to help forge aliances with good neighbors and further isolate Iran. That is not the path Israel is on but should be.
Bill, my mind set is a clear vision of the evil vs good. Sky News Australia host Chris Kenny delivers a perfect piece on Israel's war on terrorism and the global propaganda machine against them. "The only way to deliver peace: that is, to stop terrorists trying to obliterate Israel. And every day that doesn't happen, it means lran, and, Hamas, and Hezbollah all place a higher value on killing Israelis than they all place on preserving the lives of their own children."
Fighting evil with bombs is not the best path right now. We need to instead fight evil by getting world wide support behind us and further isolate those evil enemies. Israel is instead destroying their support and making the world feel that Israel is the problem.
I wish I saw a realistic path for Israel to get worldwide support in any meaningful sense. For example, I wish that if they really did return to the Green Line and stay behind it that it would mean that Iranian rockets would stop being launched by Hamas and Hezbollah hiding behind Palestinian civilians. But it wouldn't.