Hypocrisy of UN!

You are repeating Hamas propaganda, one-sided anti-Israel hate.
No, Israel is not shooting at innocent people, Hamas monster terrorists are not innocent people.
Israel has 100% right to defend itself from an enemy that is shooting at Israel.
If a rocket is being shot from Gaza at Israel with aim to kill Israeli children and civilians, then Israel has the right to shoot at that launching site and destroy it.
This is what happens in war.
A war that Hamas started and Hezbollah from Lebanon started, and Iran is orchestrating.
Israeli response is that anyone who wants to destroy Israel, and attack Israel, will be destroyed.
The Jihad is against the West and Israel is not their final destination, its just one stop on the way.
The Jihad are here in US, UK and EU.

 

Here is one out of many reminders for all that want Israel to be idle and not fight against the enemies that try to destroy it, built underground infrastructure with one purpose, destruction of Israel. You want Israel to live like that all the time? Israel left Gaza, disengaged, provided an opportunity to have striving economy and good life, Hamas hijacked Gaza and tuned it in to one giant terrorist "state".
Now the most senior leader of Hamas Sinuar, possibly injured or no longer among living.
Israel has to destroy Hamas

 

Hamas can't be destroyed by the IDF. That is according to a retired IDF leader. You know this we have discussed it. You are just repeating Netanyahu propaganda.

Here's an excellent article by the AP. AP is high reliability. https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/associated-press/

Takeaways from AP analysis of Gaza Health Ministry’s death toll data
June 7, 2024
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CIVILIAN DEATHS FUEL CRITICISM OF ISRAEL
The true toll in Gaza could have serious repercussions.

Israel faces heavy international criticism over unprecedented levels of civilian casualties in Gaza and questions about whether it has done enough to prevent them in an eight-month-old war that shows no sign of ending. An airstrike in Rafah last month killed dozens of Palestinians, and one on a school-turned-shelter in central Gaza on Thursday killed at least 33 people, including 12 women and children, health officials said.

Two international courts in the Hague are examining accusations that Israel has committed war crimes and genocide against Palestinians – allegations it adamantly denies.

https://apnews.com/article/israel-palestinians-gaza-deaths-women-children-e258a4c14641978a00dfb957ce348957

While it's true that the last few months the IDF has apparently been more careful and are killing fewer civilians. This is based on the fact that the women and children death percentages have improved along with the overall death toll slowing over time. Nothing is really being accomplished anymore in Gaza though. It is most definitely not worth the bad press and destruction of Israeli reputation around the world.

 

Israeli government has the sole responsibility to protect Israelis.
As to numbers, the Hamas health ministry states that 70% of casualties are women and children, Israel states that 30% are women and children and 70% are terrorists and man of fighting age.
The current leadership knows that there in the North Gaza area of about 500,000 people, the underground tunnels and bunkers still need to be destroyed, along with 5000
Hamas terrorists.
They are considering siege on this area with evacuation of civilians so they can siege and destroy the terror infrastructure, munitions etc., and 5000+ Hamas terrorists.
Unlike others, they see progress and being much closer to the goal of destroying Hamas.
Raffia is closed, Hamas making profits from humanitarian supplies that hey hijack.
They need to recruit new terrorists and pay salaries, they pay with the help of humanitarian supplies that they steal from UN etc.
There is no work, so people join Hamas to provide and survive.
Hamas turned down the latest US proposed deal. So it's all on Hamas now. Sinuar not heard from in last 3 weeks+, a lot of speculations if he is alive or injured etc.

 

Yes here's the problem though.

quote:
CIVILIAN DEATHS FUEL CRITICISM OF ISRAEL
The true toll in Gaza could have serious repercussions.

Israel faces heavy international criticism over unprecedented levels of civilian casualties in Gaza and questions about whether it has done enough to prevent them in an eight-month-old war that shows no sign of ending. An airstrike in Rafah last month killed dozens of Palestinians, and one on a school-turned-shelter in central Gaza on Thursday killed at least 33 people, including 12 women and children, health officials said.

Two international courts in the Hague are examining accusations that Israel has committed war crimes and genocide against Palestinians – allegations it adamantly denies.

https://apnews.com/article/israel-palestinians-gaza-deaths-women-children-e258a4c14641978a00dfb957ce348957

I note that no where does it state that anything about your assertion that this criticism is coming from mostly migrants or folks of Arabian, Iranian, Moslem, etc. decent because that is not true.

 

Israel failed to defend its citizens from the October 7th attack. The IDF was had intel saying the attack would happen and did nothing. It was a complete and utter failure. They failed. Now, they are indiscriminately killing innocent Palestinians, and even Israeli hostages as a form of self defense?

Hamas is “hiding” under hospitals, so they have to commit war crimes a level them? Israel has the Iron Dome protecting its citizens while Gaza is an open air prison. It is not equivalent to say launching rockets that will get intercepted is the same as launching rockets with the full knowledge they will kill innocent people.

 

Let’s not beat around the bush. We know why he is blaming brown immigrant groups for everything…

 

You are correct t about the failure of Oct 7th, in preventing the attack.
Israel took action in April about similar plans, it delayed the attak but indeed, no arguing here they failed, because they didn't think that the monsters in Gaza would commit such atrocities.

But what you are calling for is for Israel is not posible.
It's about survival of Israel.
It's was Islamic Jihad that shot rocket at Hospital. Misfired.
Israel warned civilians to evacuate. And risking Israeli solders lives Israel didn't bomb hospital but entered amd arrested terrorists. Hospital that was also aHamas headquarters.
You are highly misinformed about what happens, most likely from pro Jihad, Hamas Media.

 

How many votes selling the US you want?
Michigan Jihadists who will come after Dems.

here learn.

 

Bill, did you know that on my mother side my family is from Spain. Going back to grat grand father the last name Toledano. Sefardi Jew.

I embrace migrants from all countries as long as they willing to defend our Democracy among other important values.
But not promote Jiahd or other anti West ideologies, domestic or foreign.

 

The Gaza situation is no longer about survival of Israel. That is plain ridiculous. Gaza is a bunch of people that are living like rats. They are no threat to anyone except perhaps for spreading disease to others.

Regarding the rest.
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CIVILIAN DEATHS FUEL CRITICISM OF ISRAEL
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This is bad for Israel. If there was a ceasefire in Gaza then Hezbollah would stop their attacks. At least that was the status a week ago. Not sure if that would still happen now though.

 

You are 100% wrong.
Hamas can't recover and take over.
Israel will not allow that.
So yes, Gaza war needs to end, hostages released.
Hamas removed from power..
Agreement would have to be with a different frendlier leadership with inspections and arrangements that will not allow hostile terrorist infrastructure to flourish.
But at this stage Israel will continue fighting Hamas.
North Gaza is next major area.
I hope agreement reached and war stops.
But not on expance of Israels existance.

 

You are 100% wrong.

Israel is currently headed down a one way street to destruction. There will be no more Israel at the end of that street.

 

That’s the thing, Netanyahu was the one who REJECTED a deal that would end the war and release the hostages. Hamas formed as a direct reaction to Israeli’s apartheid. Israel has, and will always hold the power.

 

I hear you, Israel needed to be much more prepared for what is coming, they failed to build the proper army to fight but in 1973 and 1948 miraculously they survived.
It's been always the story of few against many.
How one makes peace with someone who wants to kill you no mater what?
Will it be an apocalyptic event of prophecies, when nations come against Israel?
With hydrogen b and nuke b, Israel will not be an easy target. God forbid if it gets to that.

 

That's what biased media wants you to believe, but in reality Hamas was just pretending negotiating. Documents captures reveal their tactic.
Hamas, was waiting for Lebanon war. It had noting to gain in a US brokered deal, unless Israel fully retreats from Gaza and releases thousands of terrorists.
Israel this time is determined to compete their goals.

"According to BILD, the document showed that Hamas is not seeking a quick end to the war that would benefit Gazan civilians. Rather, the document states, "Important clauses in the deal should be improved upon, even if negotiations continue over a longer period of time."

In the document, Hamas admits that its “military capacity has been weakened,” but does not see the need for a quick end to fighting, BILD revealed.

The document makes no reference to Palestinian casualties and civilian deaths, which BILD told The Post was unusual given the reportedly high death toll."

 

2 hours exactly after the Baka region inhabitants received the IDF warning to evacuate, now the attack also started there.,
As you can see, the IDF selectively attacks houses which hide Hezbollah's launchers.
Once the empty house is attacked, the ammo in it starts bombing
Anyone else needs a proof that the terrorists organizations hide among "civilians"?

 

The reason I believe that Israel is going down the wrong path is that I considered myself a big supporter of Israel. Stronger supporter than most Americans. Yet I now believe the current government of Israel does not have Israel's best interests at heart. I feel that the Gaza war has gone on far too long. I read that Israel's economy is hurting and the IDF is being stretched too far. Now if I feel that way I suspect that a fair percentage of Americans might be having similar thoughts. If Israel loses dedicated support from the USA then they are in really deep trouble. IMHO, the focus should be on Iran not Hamas or Hezbollah. Israel is just falling into a fight that is perfect for Iran. If we can bring Iran down then it will be like kicking the legs out from under Hamas and Hezbollah. We need to put the screws even tighter on Iran.

 

Watching UN meetings, maybe there is a chance for diplomatic agreement.
But if Israel is alone, then it will do all it wants with what it has.
At this time because of Shia Lebanees Lebanon maybe destroyed.
They allow rockets to be fired from their homes.
Lebanese Christians, Druz and Suni Arabs, need to stop the Shia Lebannese before there is destruction
Israel alone will be bad news to all.
Desperate acts of survival will bring catastrophe to the region.