Holy State Univeristy

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  1. PhD-Scholar

    PhD-Scholar member

    I did a little research on this web site and noticed that so called “moderators” very often are nothing more, but paid agents of some universities that they are attempting to promote. These people are engaging themselves into making defamatory statements about legitimate places just to bring attention of visiting people to other places that these paid agents are promoting. No brainer, it requires no mental effort to figure out who is really Kizmet… and what Kizmet is doing on this page… Kizmet advertises on this site “University of Catalonia” (obviously, a place with high tuition costs). This is why this sort of people are snooping around other pages and engaging themselves in defamations of other legitimate institutions, just to shift attention of people to places that they are advertising. This is really very, very low… and very cheap tactics…
     
  2. airtorn

    airtorn Moderator

    Soooo...what's your connection to "Holy Cross University"?
     
  3. PhD-Scholar

    PhD-Scholar member

    The same as for Kizmet…
    I did a little research on this web site and noticed that so called “moderators” very often are nothing more, but paid agents of some universities that they are attempting to promote. These people are engaging themselves into making defamatory statements about legitimate places just to bring attention of visiting people to other places that these paid agents are promoting. It requires no mental effort to figure out who these people really are. This sort of people are snooping around other pages and engaging themselves in defamations of other legitimate institutions, just to shift attention of people to places that they are advertising. This is really very, very low… and very cheap tactics…

    This school is much more legitimate than any of such fake “moderators”.
     
  4. airtorn

    airtorn Moderator

    You sound like a broken record.
     
  5. novadar

    novadar Member

    I thought this thread had died. Wow, I missed all the fun this afternoon.
     
  6. PhD-Scholar

    PhD-Scholar member

    Going back to your posting… Opinion is not a “street talk” by uneducated people. To express an “opinion” regarding educational issue you must have the highest level of education in related subject, plus knowledge of existing laws and, in addition to that, total absence of any prejudice; otherwise, it will be considered as a published defamation and not as real opinion.

    I personally looked into structure of the Holy State University and can express fully qualified opinion that Holy State University is the most affordable educational institution that legally exists under proper legal and constitutional provisions of the United States. It is providing very affordable educational services that no other universities can provide. Obviously, by having extremely low administrative fees (and there are no tuition costs!), they cannot afford the same luxurious accommodations as can other overpriced universities that are charging each student up to $50,000 - $60,000 for each year of studies. Holy State University provides educational services to people that otherwise cannot afford any other overpriced forms of education. This way, it can be considered as a charitable educational institution and it has legitimate existence basis.

    Many people must consider themselves lucky if they can gain admission to this university, because these people will be graduating free from educational loans (that other students are paying back for many years and some never are able to pay back their educational loans).

    There are no such things as “recognitions” in higher education in the United States. So called “recognitions” are nothing more but a “web” created by highly paid organizations that are promoting each other, giving in such way a false impression for regular people that some forms of recognitions are existing. Who supposed to recognize educational institutions, when they all are competing with each other and at the same time increasing educational costs to absurdly high levels?

    Accrediting organizations are legally only expressing second opinion and they are prospering by charging universities from tens of thousands to millions of dollars. Obviously, they are only “recognizing” whoever pays their high fees (and yes, they do examine educational institution…, but who would refuse to perform short examination when universities are paying for such inspection from thousands to millions of dollars).

    Council for Higher Education Accreditation is a political organization that in reality has no bigger authority than any other regular organization.This organization has no any special legal authority and all claims made all over Internet are incorrect because such claims based on this organization’s own advertisements. Motives of this organization are only financial because to be “recognized” by this organization, educational institution or accrediting organization must pay very high fees. This political organization is lobbying (attempting to influence decisions made by governmental officials) to the governmental organization in the form of defending political and financial interests of educational institutions that paid large fees to this organization; but at the same time, it only exist as any other organization and has no any special status. Universities and accrediting companies together with this organization (that claims to be “authority” in education but in reality is a regular political organization) are squeezing students financially to extremes.

    Accrediting companies/organizations are paying high fees to the Council for Higher Education Accreditation just to be listed on their web pages (and, of course, to be inspected, but how they can refuse to do it for thousands of dollars). In return for paid fees, Council for Higher Education Accreditation (that has no any educational or legal authority, but is a simple political enterprise) applies political pressure on the governmental structures, pressuring government to allow universities to continue increasing their tuition costs that mostly would be covered by educational loans issued by the federal government. Universities, after paying very high fees to own accrediting companies (that are retaining the Council for Higher Education Accreditation as a political entity to apply pressure on the government), are promoting itself as “recognized providers of education” and are increasing tuition costs to enormously high levels. Each involved organization promotes each other with claims of “recognized education” that in reality only recognized by collaborating entities working as a partners to promote each other.

    As long as government gives loans for educational costs (no matter how ridiculously high such costs are), tuition costs are and will be increasing. Universities will be using so-called “recognitions” from the Council for Higher Education Accreditation to use it as a political entity to apply pressure on the government in order to collect governmental educational loans. Educational loans are not gifts and must be paid back by students. Many students have no ability to pay educational loans back to the government and real victims of such arrangements are students together with US taxpayers.

    This answers the question, the Holy State University, not only the most affordable, but also legitimate and the best place to study for people that have limited budget and also for people that have no desire to provide constant source of enrichment for collaborating institutions that only are interested in monies that they can collect from students.
     
  7. PhD-Scholar

    PhD-Scholar member

    It was applicable for both so-called “moderators” and there was no reason to post anything different. May be we will call such “moderators” as promoters that are promoting highly priced universities by posting defamatory statements about places that they are not promoting…
     
  8. airtorn

    airtorn Moderator

    Again, I have to ask, what is your connection to "Holy State University"?
     
  9. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator

    Well I guess there's no sense in trying to hide it any longer. PhD-Scholar has unearthed the truth. How could I have been so foolish as to think I could hide this from him, with his superior knowledge and perceptual skills. I feel that, at this time, there's no point in continuing the charade. I have to come clean, not only with the truth but the whole truth. You see, I'm not really a paid agent of the University of Catalonia, I actually own the University of Catalonia. Also, could it be just a coincidence that I've recommended UNISA for so long? No, there's no coincidence, I own UNISA too. And UMass, another school I've recommended. Also, I own the Walden, Trident and and CIIS. Soon, I'll own so many universities that I can implement my plan to control the minds of American college students. At that point, how far can I be from controlling the world? I'll tell you how far . . . not very far, that's how far. So, remember all this the next time I make a stupid joke. You had better laugh and you better post a whole bunch of LOL emoticons too because I'm taking names and kicking ass. Finally, I'd just like to thank PhD-Scholar for outing me. Confession is good for the soul.
    (OMG, it's a good thing he didn't bring up the Illuminatti. I'd really be in trouble then.)
     
  10. PhD-Scholar

    PhD-Scholar member

    Answer is simple, I am a neutral observer that just tired to see how regular people are fooled every day by all misleading advertisements and by hordes of paid promoters that are masquerading themselves under false pretenses of some nonexistent “knowledge” about educational system. These promoters very often never even finished a High School and are ready to sell anything just for a few dollars (or a nickel), disregarding the fact that some people may assume that whatever promoters are telling is real, when in fact all that is just a form of concealed advertisements. It gets to the bottom of human existence (defeating any descriptions of humanity), when such promoters in their cheap and demeaning efforts to misdirect visitors, are posting false and defamatory statements about one place just to direct visitors to promoters’ pages where they are advertising own paid services for promoting highly priced education.
     
  11. airtorn

    airtorn Moderator

    Yep. You've got me. All those nickels from my moderator pay go straight into the IRA.
     
  12. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator

    There's a lot of chatter back and forth through the pm network and I would like to make it clear that I'm virtually certain that the rumor that PhD-Scholar is actually Chris Christie are not true. I'm really pretty sure that it's not at all true. So let's just drop all that, OK?
     
  13. nyvrem

    nyvrem Active Member

    I think you should really have your webmaster re-do the web layout for Catalonia. At least tell us if you offer BA/BS programs in English ! Terrible layout and presentation.
    And have your guys at UNISA reply faster ! I've not nothing on UMass yet...

    ):
     
  14. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator

    The website(s)/lack of responsiveness are a part of the application/admission process. The idea is that we are selecting for determination/motivation. If you can't figure it out then you're not trying hard enough to succeed.:cool:
     
  15. Neuhaus

    Neuhaus Well-Known Member

    Wow, that's a lot of schools. By my calculation you hold a double digit market share of the education market.

    Are you, by chance, looking to adopt a 30-something year old son? I'm mostly debt free and I've always wanted to take over an empire.
     
  16. Shawn Ambrose

    Shawn Ambrose New Member

    Wow - I miss a few days and...

    So I have a few questions concerning the Accreditation Council for Educational Standards of Schools and Universities (ACESEU):

    1. How can I find a list of schools that are accredited by this organization?

    2. The ACESEU states, "Recognitions can apply for already accredited institutions as an additional assurance and recognition level establishing public confidence in educational institution." Since I am a peer reviewer for the Higher Learning Commission and the American Council of Education, I am curious to know what the additional criteria are for ACESEU accreditation that will "establish public confidence in educational institution?"

    3. Who are the officers of ACESEU, and what is their background in higher education?

    I could add more questions - but this is a good start point. Back to you PhD-Scholar...

    Shawn
     
  17. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator

    As attractive as that prospect might be, I have a feeling that you'd be a huge behavior management problem.:nono:
     
  18. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    Ah, so it's like converting to Judaism? I knew the Illuminati was in there somewhere....
     
  19. mbwa shenzi

    mbwa shenzi Active Member

    I don't agree that it's necessary to have the highest level of education in a related subject to express an opinion on educational issues but as I have just that – I'm a PhD – and knowledge of existing laws on higher education in the US as well as in a few other countries, I think I qualify for expressing an opinion, which by the way is free from any prejudice so don't read anything else into it, please. In my opinion (not ”opinion”), it's possible to assume that you are actually the owner and/or founder of the university discussed in this thread and that your native language is Russian.

    Do you have any evidence to back that statement up with?

    What places would that be?

    So, just because something exists in the US, it's legal?
     
  20. Tireman 44444

    Tireman 44444 Well-Known Member

     

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