GradXS

While I grant that is the case with GradXS/Azteca and possibly with LIUTEBM, depending on how important programmatic accreditation is to someone, that simply isn't the case with these other institutions. Are we really going to say that either Charisma Univ. or IIC Univ. of Technology "have something missing in terms of accreditation" and are somehow similar to propoios? On what basis?

 

More or less on the basis of name recognition or better branding. The foreign universities are just trying to expand their networks to gain students internationally which still will have many here locally seeing their schools as obscure. The better known schools talked about here tend to have some issues in terms of accreditation and propio statuses, ie Azteca as I have a propio from them validated as an official from UCN which ended up being the only diploma I was issued and that really counted. In any case, GradXS, UpGrad, and others are making money by increasing these institution's networks. While there are many legit schools that they partner with, many are still either questionable or obscure. That doesn't necessary take away from what these institutions offer but one should be open-minded when exploring these schools and view them more for continuing education and not official credentials equivalent to the US with the same opportunities in my opinion.

Even with my Azteca/UCN PhD degree, I don't expect opportunities to open up in the same way a local PhD would have done for me since I completed it for continuing education and personal enrichment.

 

Alright. Sure. Rich's whole "a degree is a proxy" bit is true enough, and a lesser-known institution will not garner the kind of response in certain rather limited contexts.

Agreed, but this is precisely why their offerings are priced and marketed the way they are. Its mutually beneficial.

Azteca is the only one. Even then, recognition may vary in foreign contexts.

I suppose I don't see it that way. If you produced a viable piece of scholarship through the program commensurate with the rigors of a research doctorate, I wouldn't talk it down because it's from UCN. While that might catch the ire of degree snobs, it is ultimately legitimate and is not remotely similar to an unrecognized credential within your field (i.e., education).[/QUOTE]

 

https://hedd.ac.uk/viewInstitution?id=847

Charisma University
This provider does not award recognised UK degrees.

I wonder if this information is up to date.

 

They also list Charisma as "USA" but they are actually in the Turks and Caicos. And Charisma's owner has sued several members here and on DegreeForum.

I don't think it's a matter of the info being out of date, but just that GradXS isn't trying too hard to be accurate.

 

He tried to have several members served, but only one--me--went to court. I kicked his stupid ass. Not only did I get his stupid suit dismissed with prejudice, I also won an anti-SLAPP judgment against him.

I orginally asked him to withdraw the suit and he refused. So, when it was clear the judge had had enough, the guy (I'm not going to say his name) called me, begging me to drop the matter. By then I was angry and wanted to beat him. So I refused and then thumped him. He used to post here. He doesn't anymore. Asshole.

 

Validation? Or passive permission?

 

Well maybe "private", "validated" , or "non-academic" degree. Propio translates to private or own so it would still be technically correct.

 

With my employer, the policy is straightforward: a degree must be from a regionally accredited institution or, if obtained internationally, it must be evaluated as equivalent by one of the credential evaluation services approved by HR. (WES, etc) This requirement has never changed.

Once the candidate received verbal offer of employment, upon accepting the employment offer the official background verification begins.

During the background screening process, the degree is verified. If any questions arise regarding a candidate’s education, the applicant will be contacted directly for clarification.

 

Lots of changes unrelated to this topic, certainly.

But I would retain the regional/national distinctions because I think--despite some rhetoric to the contrary--they're still operational. In fact, because of that rhetoric, knowing if reality has changed to match it would be really valuable. Remember I said, "I think" not "I know."

 

I wonder if you could approach it from the reverse: ask registrars to list examples of schools they would NOT admit students from, and to explain their reasoning. Then you might suss out if the regional/national dichotomy still exists. Of course then you might run into issues with loaded terms like "diploma mill" where you think it's obvious that nobody should admit students from an "obvious diploma mill" and then under questioning you find out they meant University of Phoenix. A semi-structured interview approach might be needed.