General feelings about for-profits...

I'm not a fan. Even if they are providing a quality education the stigma attached to them is so great that you are automatically inheriting a slew of biases by simply listing the school on your resume. Beyond that, it always seems that there are more traditional schools offering the exact same/extremely similar programs at a much lower rate.

 

LOL nice. Sounds about like Remington College, which was my first attempt at getting my learn on in the mid 90's.

 

LOVE IT! That is so funny!!!!

 

The stigma is there and it will be there for a long time. We have a few members here that currently attend or have attended a for-profit school that state they got a worthwhile education. I'm am SLOWLY warming to the idea, but I personally have friends who have gone the for-profit route and got taken advantage of in the process. So my stance regarding for-profit's is guarded to say the least.

 

Lol...I attend a for profit school Penn Foster, but only cause of the ACE courses and they are darn cheaper than my community college. =]

 

I agree completely. To be honest, I think that it is doubtful that, all else equal, for profits provide as good of an education as not for profits.

I am often surprised reading here when students choose for profits (and in general at the numbers enrolled at for profits) with all of the not for profit options now available, but I think convenience is a huge factor. Particularly for undergraduate degrees where the student starts with little or no credit, I think it is generally easier and quicker to get a degree from a for profit. Additionally, enrollment is generally less of a hassle at for profits and I think there is more hand holding along the way to keep the student enrolled.

 

I am not a champion of for-profit universities but I feel the need to point out that what you have stated is an opinion, not a fact. If a person has a specific complaint about a specific school then that can be valid and understood. However, to talk this way about EVERY for-profit, without evidence, is irresponsible and strains your own credibility.

 

It's a joke, son!

 

Lol! Sign me up now! I want to earn an MBA via text messaging! :smile:

 

I simply MUST do that! (oh no, not again)

 

Not all for-profit colleges were created equal. I am certain my education from American Military University is on par with many non-profit programs.

 

My original post was a link to a funny picture portraying a generally humorous slant to the attitude most people have toward for-profit universities. The title was also "General FEELINGS about for-profits." Lighten up.

 

As someone who works as faculty and administrator in "non-profit" institutions for more than 20 years and is now at a "for-profit," I found the ad amusing. It reminds me of similar parodies of distance learning. "For-profit" education is merely the latest outside-the-box idea to be feared, lampooned, villified, etc. Those who have been involved heavily in distance learning, homeschooling or anything else outside the norm tend to grow a thick skin.

I love the "dedicated to profits since 3Q2009" Funny stuff!

 

You're correct, I should have led off with "in my opinion...". That said, my opinion is right.

 

I understand; however, the problem with a statement like this is that it assumes that all 3,000+ not for-profits (say community colleges vs. ivy league universities) are so similar to each other, with little variation in quality and that all 3,000+ for-profits (say cosmetology schools vs. regional accredited doctoral granting universities) are also so similar to each other, with little variation in quality, that you can say that a student attending any of the former will be better educated than a student attending any of the latter. I think that this is a tricky assumption to make.

This, by the way, is the same problem encountered by those who claim that face-to-face courses are superior to online courses. It assumes that there is little or no variation in quality among face-to-face courses. Any of us who have attended college can attest that all of our face-to-face courses and professors were equal in quality, right? In statistics, analysis of variance (ANOVA) compares the amount of variance within groups to the amount of variance between groups. Even if the mean score of one group is higher than another, if there is more variance within the groups than between one group and other, you cannot accurately state that one is significantly better than the other.

This is why claims that learning F2F is better than leaning via DL or that non-profit schools educate better than for-profits do are silly and cannot be backed up by any data (other than, perhaps, subjective opinion polls).

 

Glad to hear it - saying all for-profits are alike is like saying all non-profits are alike. I have gotten good and bad from both for-profits and non-profits. Having attend a mix, I really feel I can make a sound judgment -
Indiana University - non-profit
St Petersburg College - non-profit
Florida State College - non-profit
Touro University International - non-profit
University of Florida - non-profit
University of Phoenix - for-profit
TUI/Trident - for-profit
DeVry - for-profit
Northcentral - for-profit
California Coast University - for-profit

 

I seem to recall there being well-received studies that proved DL students generally achieve a higher mastery of their material than non-DL students?

 

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