French DEA

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  1. Scott Henley

    Scott Henley New Member

    Does anyone have any ideas what the North American / British equivalent of the French Diplôme d'études Approfondies (DEA).

    Apparently the DEA is the completed first years of doctoral (Doctorat) studies so I would think that this is equivalent to the British M.Phil. or American ABD-status.

    Opinions?
     
  2. Ted Heiks

    Ted Heiks Moderator and Distinguished Senior Member

    ABD status would indicate that one attempted the doctorate, finished the coursework, but the dissertation somehow didn't pan out. A better comparison would be the CAS (Certificate of Advanced Study), which means one year of post-master's coursework with no intention of doing a doctorate.
     
  3. KKA

    KKA Member

    DEA

    Hello,

    The French DEA is equivalent to an American EdS or CAS or CGS.

    KKA
     
  4. Scott Henley

    Scott Henley New Member

    Re: DEA

    What is the full name of a EdS, CAS or CGS. I have never heard of them.
     
  5. zvavda

    zvavda New Member

    Re: Re: DEA

    EdS = Education Specialist,
    CAS = Certificate of Advanced Study.
     
  6. KKA

    KKA Member

    CGS is a Certificate of Graduate Studies
     
  7. Mighty_Tiki

    Mighty_Tiki Member

    CAGS

    Yet another equal here in Massachusetts:

    CAGS - Certificate of Advanced Graduate Study
     
  8. Bruce

    Bruce Moderator

    Re: CAGS

    Most CAS and CGS programs I've seen have been 12-15 credits, while a CAGS is usually 30-36 semester credits, with a major project roughly equal to a thesis.

    If I lived closer, I'd do this CAGS program in a heartbeat.
     
  9. Scott Henley

    Scott Henley New Member

    Re: DEA

    They look comparable, except that the French consider the DEA a "degree" on its own, whereas the EdS, CAS, or CGS seem to be post-masters "certificates".
     
  10. KKA

    KKA Member

    EdS

    In education, the EdS is very much considered a "degree" (although its origins are in the certificate domain) and that is because the post masters credits needed to obtain it, usually at the doctoral level, range between 30 to 36 credits. (It has been refered to as a junior "doctorate"). It is very much like the French DEA.

    KKA
     
  11. Scott Henley

    Scott Henley New Member

    Re: EdS

    Is the Ed.S. generally conferred in the field of education? The French DEA is conferred in all disciplines.

    Also, like the Ed.S. I have seen the DEA referred to as a "first doctoral degree".
     
  12. Ted Heiks

    Ted Heiks Moderator and Distinguished Senior Member

    Re: Re: DEA

    Don't tell jimnagrom that. He might get a bit upset.
     
  13. Ted Heiks

    Ted Heiks Moderator and Distinguished Senior Member

    Re: Re: CAGS

    Really? I've seen Graduate Certificates that are 12-15 credits, but I thought that the Certificate of Advanced Study was 30 credits.
     

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