Famine is Very Near in Gaza Again

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  1. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    A newly surfaced U.K. government document has raised fresh concerns over British-funded humanitarian aid to Gaza, suggesting officials were aware of the risk funds might indirectly support Hamas. the terrorist group that governs the Gaza Strip.

    While U.K. officials strongly deny the claim, critics say key questions remain unanswered.

    The document, dated November 2022 and obtained by NGO Monitor, outlines the U.K.'s humanitarian strategy in the Palestinian territories. One section references a UNICEF-administered cash assistance program in Gaza coordinated with the Ministry of Social Development (MoSD).

    The NGO Monitor report claims, "The MoSD in Gaza is affiliated with the de facto authorities and thus U.K. Aid can be linked directly with supporting the de facto authority in Gaza (Hamas), which is part of a proscribed group."
     
  2. NotJoeBiden

    NotJoeBiden Active Member

    “NGO Monitor is a right-wing organization based in Jerusalem that reports on international NGO activity from a pro-Israel perspective.”

    “NGO Monitor has been criticized by academic figures, diplomats, and journalists for allowing its research and conclusions to be driven by politics, for not examining right-wing NGOs, and for spreading misinformation.”

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/NGO_Monitor
     
  3. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    Majority of these NGOs are biased against Israel. UN is increasingly anti-Israel, and It's nothing more than Petrodollars. They are depended on oil, Arab states markets who are very large customer, and cave their ideology to Arab League.
     
  4. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

  5. NotJoeBiden

    NotJoeBiden Active Member

    Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch are funded almost entirely through small donations from private individuals. NGO Monitor on the other hand is not transparent about their funding, but when it was it had significant contributions from government agencies, companies, millionaires, and all the types of vested interests you claim NGOs get money from.
     
  6. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    I read Amnesty International offered 30$ per hour to Gaza protesters. Some paid protesters took it.
     
  7. NotJoeBiden

    NotJoeBiden Active Member

    No, that is not a real thing that ever happened.

    Also, that doesn't support the claim you made that they are supported by middle-eastern oil companies.
     
  8. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    It's not just oil companies, it's Arab League, a huge consumer.
    They been boycotting Israel for decades.

    There are pro-Israel advocacy groups (like NGO Monitor, or groups connected to Jewish organizations) that push back on what they see as unfair or one-sided criticism.
    Many UN member states—especially from the Arab and Islamic blocs—consistently vote in favor of resolutions that criticize Israel.
     
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  9. NotJoeBiden

    NotJoeBiden Active Member

    You have yet to provide evidence of your claims
     
  10. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    Anything that begins with "I read" and has no citation can be completely disregarded.
     
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  11. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    I read

    Amnesty International paying $30 per hour to advocate for ceasefire in Israel and Hamas war
    quote:
    Amnesty International is paying protesters who advocate for a ceasefire between Israel and Hamas up to $30 per hour, according to a job listing.

    DVCanvass, a nonprofit, made the Seattle job listing in early June for Amnesty International in early June, which states “We are demanding that Congress and the Biden administration call for an immediate ceasefire to end civilian suffering.”
    https://www.campusreform.org/article/amnesty-international-paying-30-per-hour-advocate-ceasefire-israel-hamas-war/25760

    Some concern is that MediaBiasFactCheck rates Campus Reform mediocre reliability, that is only Mixed reliability. More concerning to me is that I couldn't find any other sources to verify their reporting and this article is almost a year old.
     
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  12. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    Fair,
    I remember reading it but didn't recall the source.

    The job is no longer listed on, Indeed. I will try Wayback Machine ?
    While the specific Santa Cruz listings are inactive, DVCanvass continues to post similar positions in other locations.

    Amnesty International has offered positions that pay up to $30 per hour, particularly for campaigns advocating for a ceasefire in Gaza.
    While positions have been based in cities like Seattle and Denver, there have been listings in California as well.

    BTW I'm for such ceasefire in Gaza, as long as hostages released and Hamas capitulates. Something that may provide some kind of security on the Southern border to all civilians on both sides.

    These jobs are typically facilitated through third-party organizations like DVCanvass and Grassroots Team, which partner with Amnesty International to conduct door-to-door fundraising and awareness campaigns. Compensation structures often include a base pay starting around $20–$23 per hour, with the potential to earn up to $30 per hour through performance-based bonuses
    For instance, DVCanvass has posted jobs in Santa Cruz County, offering $21–$30 per hour for canvassing roles. Although specific listings for San Jose aren't currently available, opportunities may arise in nearby areas.

    As to University illegal encampments, protests those are funded in different sources and some are under investigation.
    https://oversight.house.gov/release/comer-continues-to-investigate-groups-funding-and-organizing-illegal-encampments-and-pro-hamas-activities-in-the-united-states%EF%BF%BC/?utm_source=chatgpt.com
     
  13. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    Masked gunmen shoot at Gazans seeking humanitarian aid:
    https://www.yahoo.com/news/masked-gunmen-shoot-gazans-seeking-171323280.html
    Who is interested in disrupting US AID to Gaza? Terrorist organization Hamas!!!

    The Israel Defense Forces released drone footage on Sunday that shows armed and masked individuals in southern Khan Yunis attacking Gaza civilians who were attempting to collect humanitarian aid.

    According to the IDF, the video, captured earlier in the day, shows men throwing rocks and firing weapons at fellow Palestinians trying to retrieve looted aid packages.
     
  14. NotJoeBiden

    NotJoeBiden Active Member

    Lol the report used ChatGPT as per the URL. A press release is hardly solid evidence.
     
  15. NotJoeBiden

    NotJoeBiden Active Member

    The IDF did the exact same thing to Gazans seeking aid a few days ago. When Hamas does acts of terror it is called out as such, but when Israel does even more egregious acts it you deny it. Quite the double standard.


    Gaza ministry says Israel kills more than 30 aid seekers, Israel denies

    https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israeli-strike-aid-point-kills-26-rafah-hamas-affiliated-media-say-2025-06-01/
     
  16. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    IDF didn't shoot at civilians.

    But Hamas wants to portray it as if IDF did it.
    Hamas affiliated media= Is terrorist ministry = Gaza ministry = Hamas

    Hamas is the only one who is interested in stopping US Aid.
     
  17. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    Respond to Indeed job posting, those job postings are real.
     
  18. NotJoeBiden

    NotJoeBiden Active Member

    They did. Read the report. Independent news agencies saw the video and confirmed it. Meanwhile you have no evidence in support of your claim.
     
  19. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    I asked yiu to provide the link, yuu failed.
    Can you share a link?
     
  20. NotJoeBiden

    NotJoeBiden Active Member



    There are many more. Some even interviewing people there.
     

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