Famine is Very Near in Gaza Again

I have to agree, of course. There’s no doubt in my mind that Israel is purposefully causing the famine. But considering the source of the post I thought it relatively very accurate.

 

The point that is missing is Israel had the tools to prevent this and currently has tools to end it today.
https://www.reuters.com/video/watch/idRW900422082025RP1/

Israel also just killed 70 people in a recent strike. It is cruel and sick. Gaza is an open air prison.
https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/liveblog/2025/8/23/live-israel-kills-over-70-in-gaza-as-un-warns-of-famine-survival-crisis

 

Netanyahu wanted to cause famine not prevent it. He likes it because he wants the Palestinians dead or out of Gaza. That’s the radical far right goal. The famine might force the ideal outcome for him which would be for Egypt to allow them to immigrate to Egypt. The secondary prize would be for the Gazans to rebel against Hamas because they would be so desperate.

 

Hard to rebel when you are starving to death.

 

True, I didn’t claim it was likely. Only that Netanyahu is hoping for as a lesser possibility.

I did read that Israel has had some discussions with Egypt on allowing some into Egypt. It said the response was anger and yelling on the Egyptian side.

 

I had a very secular upbringing. We were the only Jews around with exception of a family where the mother was the oldest daughter of the chief rabbi of the main synagogue in the capital, but we always thought they were a bit weird with their emphasis on being Jewish without ever actually celebrating a single holiday. Not that we were any better: sure, we knew about when to expect the major holidays, but when we were kids, we sort of concentrated on Chanukkah and Purim, but the rest of the holidays went largely unnoticed. My interest in religion and my heritage came later, thanks to the influence of my maternal grandfather, who was a Christian, but quite knowledgeable about the central values of Judaism as well. Irrespective of whose fault everything is, and who started it, what I see on television and read in newspapers is in violation of anything and everything I'd consider key values in both Judaism and Christianity. I don't know how to express exactly how I feel about what's happening, other than in the words of Mirah:

We celebrate the wars we won
The blood of history's ancient sons
We followed judah maccabee
We fought against iniquity
We saved ourselves with help from one
Who loves his children, everyone
Everyone, everyone Everyone, everyone
So now jerusalem, you know that it's not right
After all you've been through, you should know better than
To become the wicked ones almighty god once saved you from
The lessons we should learn from all
The fighting in the days of old
When providence was still divine
The sanctuary purified
Let lightning circle all you hold
And then uproot the olive grove
So now jerusalem, you know that it's not right
After all you've been through, you should know better than
To become the wicked ones almighty god once saved you from
So now jerusalem, you know that it's not right
After all you've been through, you should know better than
To become the wicked ones almighty god once saved you from

 

That’s a real tear jerker. Thanks for sharing.

I dated a Jewish girl for years and have a best friend that’s Jewish. I am generally on the same side as the Israeli government. But not the Netanyahu government. I think a good percentage of Israelis are getting tired of this war and killing and want to just end it and get all the hostages home.

 

Conflict and wars, including religious conflicts.

In 1950, Gaza had about 3,000–5,000 Christians.
Today, there are only about 1,000–1,300 left, mostly Greek Orthodox.
That’s indeed a dramatic decline (about –70% to –80%).
In 1950, Israel’s Christian population was roughly 34,000–40,000.
By 2022, Israel’s Central Bureau of Statistics reported about 182,000 Christians.
That’s indeed about a ~440–450% increase over 70+ years.
BUT: Christians are still a small minority (about 1.9% of Israel’s total population today). Most of the growth is partly natural increase and partly immigration (esp. from the former USSR in the 1990s, when many people registered as Christians/Jewish families with mixed heritage).
2. West Bank
In 1950, Christians were around 7–8% of the West Bank population.
Today, they are ~1–2%, with the largest community in Bethlehem and Ramallah.
This is indeed a sharp decline, but it’s not just “Palestinian rule.” The period covers Israeli rule as well .

 

In Gaza City, Hamas remains very much in control, and multiple reports estimate that as much as up to 80% of aid is diverted to them or distributed through their networks. That’s not the same situation as in Southern Gaza, where their grip is weaker and conditions differ. So while others may bear some responsibility, Hamas’s role in aid diversion and its impact on famine conditions cannot be overlooked.
Indeed Israel beseech Gaza city has effect on famine there as well.

 

All the articles I've read on this subject indicate that Israel's claims about Hamas absconding with a large percentage of aid is unproven and not likely true.

quote:
Reports in 2025, including a U.S. government analysis, have found no evidence of widespread, systematic theft of humanitarian aid by Hamas. However, there is evidence that Hamas benefits from or interferes with aid to a smaller degree and through other means, while Israel and other aid organizations accuse the group of more substantial diversion.

 

My understanding this is not the case for North Gaza, Gaza City..

 

There is no evidence of a large percentage of aid going to Hamas. I understand that Israel propaganda says differently. That is propaganda, not evidence.

 

Yes, Christians are leaving the open air prison that is Gaza. A church just got blown up a month ago by Israeli.

 

The #'s I posted are pre war 2023.
They are living also because of harassment by Jihadists..

 

My point still stands.

 

So is mine

 

Christians are harassed mostly by Islamists. PA is harassing them in Beith Lehem, Jihadists in Gaza, etc
Christians are not escaping Nazareth.
Tell alot.
Is it perfect? No
In Beth Lehem there problems with setlers but nothing to compare to abuse by Palestinian Atority.
Real ethnic cleansing is against Christians and Jews.

 

I’d call the bombing of churches and killing clergy members by Israel a form of harassment and ethnic cleaning. No less real than other forms.

 

You know very well that neither churches nor clergy were targeted by Israel.
In war, destruction sometimes occurs as a tragic byproduct of fighting, but that is not the same as deliberate targeting.
The truth is, the church itself was not the target.
But I can see how Hamas propoganda can capitalize on this.

 

Report shows rise in attacks on Christians in Israel, but a willingness to tackle issue
https://www.timesofisrael.com/report-shows-rise-in-attacks-on-christians-in-israel-but-a-willingness-to-tackle-issue/amp/