Famine is Very Near in Gaza Again

Discussion in 'Political Discussions' started by Bill Huffman, May 4, 2025.

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  1. NotJoeBiden

    NotJoeBiden Well-Known Member

    You admitted it yourself, Israel led a disengagement from Gaza in 2005, removing all settlers. It isn’t an “ethnic cleansing”, especially since Israel still maintains occupations in parts of Gaza.

    Israel is the reason there are no Israelis in Gaza. Are you accusing Israel of this ethnic cleansing then?

    And sure, tell AI to make me that timeline.
     
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  2. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    I think a super important detail that shows what is really going on is the fact that Israel won't let journalists into Gaza unless the IDF goes with them and keeps them on a very short leash. If Israel wasn't trying to hide something then why do that?

    The sad thing about the proposed Gaza City expedition is that most if not all Hamas hostages will probably be killed. Hamas won't let the hostages be taken alive by the IDF. So if the IDF gets close to a hostage Hamas will murder them. That is because Hamas is evil. Even more evil than Netanyahu!
     
  3. NotJoeBiden

    NotJoeBiden Well-Known Member

    What if that is part of Netanyahu’s plan?
     
  4. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    He still wouldn't be as evil as Hamas.

    Actually though I guess it might be possible that he wouldn't mind if all the hostages were killed. He's getting big push back in Israel because Israelis want the hostages returned alive. Although it would be in Hamas's best interest for Israel to think the hostages are alive so Israel would likely not find out that all hostages are dead.
     
  5. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    I dont think Hamas will release all hostages, they use it as a guaranty that Hamas may live longer.
     
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  6. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    I think your bias is too high, the IDF and Israel is democracy.

    The restriction on journalists isn’t about hiding wrongdoing — it’s about survivability and security. Gaza is an active war zone, filled with tunnels, booby traps, and ongoing firefights. No military in the world allows unrestricted civilian movement in such an environment.
    Even Western militaries embedded journalists in Iraq and Afghanistan under close supervision for the same reason: to protect them from being killed, captured, or manipulated by enemy forces.

    In Gaza, the risk is far worse — Hamas has a long record of intimidating or arresting journalists, staging propaganda scenes, and forcing “minders” to control what is filmed.
    Without IDF escort, reporters could be kidnapped, killed, or coerced into spreading Hamas’s narrative.
    The IDF’s role is not to censor, but to prevent those outcomes.

    As for the hostages, you are correct that Hamas is likely to kill them if the IDF gets close — which is exactly why Israel’s military pressure is necessary.
    Every day Hamas holds hostages is another day they can use them as bargaining chips.
    The only way to end that threat is to dismantle Hamas’s military infrastructure and remove their ability to capture or murder civilians again.
    Stopping short would only reward hostage-taking as a tactic.
    Weak EU leaders cave to terrorists, is why latests talks with Hamas failed.
     
  7. NotJoeBiden

    NotJoeBiden Well-Known Member

    Israel can do no wrong as long as people believe everything they say.
     
  8. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    You speak some truth but your blindness to Netanyahu’s evil ways is clouding your judgement. Almost the whole world sees the genocide, for example. You trying to blame some Hamas magic ability to trick the world with fake destruction and starvation is another example.
     
  9. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    It's not black or white. You fail to see the obvious.
    Israel had its errors, but what world sees is a anti Israel campagn, ignoring that in Syria in 2011 to 2013 300,000 people where killed. No body cared.
    Hamas is the reason UN is scared to deliver aid, so you see Gazans go hungry.

    You have no understanding of Middle East nor ISIS type mind that is in each Islamist.
    Gazans should rise against Hamas.
    Aid rotting by the border because UN is afraid to deliver it.
     
  10. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    Israel is 1000 times more reliable that Hamas lies.
    Or those who sell out to radical Jihad.
     
  11. NotJoeBiden

    NotJoeBiden Well-Known Member

    Hamas is unreliable.
    1000 x 0 =0
     
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  12. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    This is childish.
     
  13. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

  14. NotJoeBiden

    NotJoeBiden Well-Known Member

    Aah, a video from the “Israel Advocacy Movement”. A group devoted to defending Israel. Im sure I can expect unbiased journalism. No Hamas propaganda here.
     
  15. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    It is pure Netanyahu LIES, LIES, and more LIES. Israel likes to blame the UN and Hamas for the famine in Gaza that Israel is causing. That silly video was trying to blame the UN for the starvation in Gaza.
     
  16. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member


    I know you prefer Hamas videos, but this is to balance the situation.
    Let readers make their choices.
    Am Israel Hi.
     
  17. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    Not UN, but Hamas, who is creating unsafe conditions for AID delivery without falling in to the hands of Terrorists.
    UN is afraid to deliver this , unless they allow Hamas to divert major portions of it. Otherwise hams shoots at them. And Israel shoots at Hamas.
     
  18. NotJoeBiden

    NotJoeBiden Well-Known Member

  19. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    There is suffering because of the Palestinian Terror, ISIS type mentality.
    They did it in Syria as well.
    Biggest lie, Hamas propoganda.
    Jihadi lies, and wait and see what they will do to Paris and London.
     
  20. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    The radical far right Israel government is purposely undermining the two state solution and bragging about it. The Israeli government is an evil disaster in progress.

    Israeli Minister Strikes at Palestinian State With Move to Expand Key Settlement

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    Far-right Finance Minister Bezalel Smotrich said Israel would move ahead with a controversial settlement expansion near East Jerusalem that would isolate key Palestinian communities and significantly complicate prospects for a Palestinian state.

    Smotrich, who also oversees civil affairs in the occupied Palestinian territories via a separate post in the defense ministry, said construction plans have been approved for a project that “finally buries the idea of a Palestinian state.”
    https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-east/israeli-minister-strikes-at-palestinian-state-with-move-to-expand-key-settlement-af2c26d2
     

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