Famine is Very Near in Gaza Again

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  1. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    It's obvious that Hamas is the ones who are starving the hostages, have you seen the well fed Hamas terrorist handing a can of pees to the skeleton looking hostage?
    Hamas lies, murderers and they got to your minds.
     
  2. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    Lerner brings you news minus Hamas propoganda. I don't have commercials to sell you, I don't need ratings.
     
  3. NotJoeBiden

    NotJoeBiden Well-Known Member

    It’s ironic because Israel actually systematically starves and tortures Palestinian prisoners. Or maybe all those prisoners had a generic condition, right?

    https://euromedmonitor.org/en/article/6608/"Grave-for-the-Living":-The-health-status-of-Palestinian-prisoners-recently-released-from-Israeli-jails-indicates-their-systematic-malnutrition-and-torture
     
  4. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    Indeed Jewish comunity is not a monolith, but they don't have different CNN feed, Fox, or BBC, etc they see what everybody else see.
    Even if I have a lot of disagreement with current Israel leadership, I can clearly see the hostile media portreyals, I see Israel internally divided as well.
    I said it many time, if it was up to me, I would have stopped Gaza war long time ago.
    If it was up to me, I would have never allowed Hamas to take over Gaza.
    When Israwlel disengaged with Gaza in 2005 -2006, PA would have been a partner that I would have supported from falling to Hamas.
    The writing was on the wall, that there was a terrorist state born in 2005.
     
    Last edited: Aug 4, 2025
  5. NotJoeBiden

    NotJoeBiden Well-Known Member

    They have a direct connection to Israel.
     
  6. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    Israel is not monolith, some connected to left and some to right, some to ultraorthodox etc, and some to ultra atheist.
     
  7. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    More than 3000 Jewish worshipers went up the Temple Mount and prayed on this 9th in Av date.
    No Hamas rockets to stop them.
    This is a victory on itself.
    Status quo wasn't brocken, but the right is fulfilled
    The preparations to build Temple are underway.
     
  8. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    Not shown on networks, due to opposing to Hamas lies narrative.

    Footage of 'bustling' Gaza markets counter Hamas starvation claims

    https://x.com/cogatonline/status/1952367065110618221?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1952367065110618221%7Ctwgr%5E0988b4808edabf3511c6bbd9cecf52f231d6801c%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.jpost.com%2Fisrael-news%2Fdefense-news%2Farticle-863218

    market in the Gaza Strip, July 28, 2025.
    While asserting “aid is flowing in, by land and by air every day,” COGAT asserted that “Hamas is pushing a fake famine narrative” while stealing the aid and selling it at a large mark-up.

    The Coordination of Government Activities in the Territories shared footage on Monday of bustling markets with large quantities of food to counter Hamas’s accusations that Israel is deliberately causing a famine in the Gaza Strip.

    The footage shows fresh produce being sold, along with pastry shops being open.


    While asserting “aid is flowing in, by land and by air every day,” COGAT asserted that “Hamas is pushing a fake famine narrative” while stealing the aid and selling it at a large markup.

    “Bitter truth: Hamas is starving its own people. They steal the food, hoard the aid, and sell it at sky-high prices,” COGAT said. “The food is there. The aid is there. Hamas just keeps it from those who need it most.”

    The COGAT video was released after Hamas released videos of emaciated hostages, claiming that they were being subjected to the same starvation as the rest of the Gaza Strip over an apparent lack of resources being transferred to the Gaza Strip.
     
  9. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    You show us some videos on X as proof that there is plenty of food in Gaza? That has zero credibility. How do we know that is even Gaza? How do we know that those videos weren't taken in 2015? Why do you think this makes sense? Oh yea, your measure of credibility is whether or not you want to believe it. If you'd like to believe it then it is credible and true in your mind. If you don't like what something says then it is is not credible and false in your mind. That is not how most folks on this forum think.
     
  10. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    This COGAT video is plain stupid. Let's suppose for argument sake that it is true. All Israel would have to do is gather together a dozen or two of the top news journalists in the world. drive them to Gaza and show them. Why doesn't Israel do that? Obviously because it is a stupid LIE.
     
  11. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    When much of the world had written off northern Gaza as unreachable, 30-year-old east-Jerusalem resident Sarah Awaidah and her team carved out a lifeline. Under the umbrella of Mena Aid, a regional partner coalition operating through the Multifaith Alliance (MFA), and in coordination with Israeli authorities, she built a system that moved hundreds of trucks of food and supplies into Gaza – bypassing Hamas and private contractors who had turned hunger into a business.

    The result: more than 100,000 families fed. The cost: her own safety. "I never imagined that creating a safe, independent humanitarian route would become the reason my life might end," Sarah Awaidah told Fox News Digital in an exclusive interview that took place in a safe house in Israel.

    After delivering 346 trucks of aid between September 2024 and February 2025, we reached 100,622 families," Awaidah said. "We decided to scale up distribution on June 30, 2025, at a time when no one was able to get anything into Gaza because of looting, chaos and multiple layers of obstruction on the ground."

    Operating through Mena Aid, Awaidah’s team designed an alternative route to deliver food and essential supplies. upload_2025-8-4_16-1-39.jpeg
     
  12. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    You rely on Hamas lies most of the time, so why arguing?
    There are packets where there is much more than other locations, it has always been like this.
    Media is running on sales, they need ratings, sell commercials, satisfy agendas, I think they feed you Hamas propaganda.
     
    Last edited: Aug 5, 2025
  13. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    God give strength to her arm and courage to her mind - She is a target by Hamas and Jihad.
    Who would be mad enough to do this? I realize when I read these things that I am the chief of the armchair warriors.
     
  14. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    You can't point out any Hamas lie in my post. You can't point out any Hamas lie in either of my last two posts questions. Why don't you answer my questions? Here they are again for you.

    How do we know that is even Gaza?
    How do we know that those videos weren't taken in 2015?
    Why do you think this makes sense?
    If there's plenty of food in Gaza, why doesn't the IDF take journalists there and just show them?????????????
     
  15. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    Another couple of questions.

    The X user that posted the video was COGAT.
    quote:
    COGAT is a unit in the Israeli Ministry of Defense tasked with overseeing civilian policy in the West Bank, as well as facilitating logistical coordination between Israel and the Gaza Strip.[1] It operates in collaboration with Israeli governmental and defense officials.
    ...
    activity in the Gaza Strip has been carried out by the Coordination and Liaison Administration of the Gaza Strip (headed by a Colonel). The C.L.A is located outside of the Gaza Strip adjacent to the Erez Crossing.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coordinator_of_Government_Activities_in_the_Territories

    How do you know that the COGAT X user is really a representative of Israel?
    Since the CLA is now responsible for Gaza, why did COGAT make the post on X instead of the CLA?
     
  16. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member



    Ch11 had this footage, it's from last week.
    According to ch11.

    Now based on your logic, if Israel is not letting press in to Gaza, then who provides info and footage to the press.
    Hamas.
     
  17. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    You are bringing good points.
    What I post is not definitive proof.
    Many Israeli solders, reserve, who serve in Gaza bring a lot of footage on their personal cell phones.
    They can get in trouble, but many of them share what footage they capture.
     
  18. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

  19. NotJoeBiden

    NotJoeBiden Well-Known Member

    Israel provides the footage so they can selectively show what is happening in Gaza. Israel is the one controlling the flow of information. They eliminated any free press in the region and have cut communications out of Gaza, with the exception of the communications of course.
     
  20. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    It's a Democratic forum, we all have our opinions.
     

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