Expert Rating Certifications

You aren't looking to debate; to the contrary, you are looking for validation on your using an unaccredited credential for employment purposes. If you are going to present arguments for "certification mills" like Expert Rating, it is to be expected that they will come under attack, especially from someone like me who has studied law and worked in it.

My arguments are relevant to the subject matter you presented. What it boils down to is either a credential is valid - or it is not. The certifications awarded by ER have no validity. Global certifications are ludicrous for the most part.

Enjoy your debate.

 

You ommitted the most inportant piece of my statement....deliberately; good job on that law training..
"There are other ways to prove a point other than trying to shut down the discussion "if this is one" by using this kind of answers... "
Case Closed CSI wanabee

 

Nobody shut down the discussion. Besides, you have the same discussion going on another board.

http://www.degreediscussion.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=7209

I'm not the one promoting ER.

 

Remember Case Closed;

 

Gee, and I'm only fluent in 2 languages :'(. 2 to go. However, if I decide to one day learn Mexican Sign Language and Swahili as I've been considering, I'll have you beat by 2, and it will be your turn to catch up .

I'm not going for a degree in languages, just grabbing some credits from them. My upper level credits will have to be in my majors, since I'm doubling. CLEP was less expensive and quicker than the options you mentioned.

 

Sounds to me like you are on a witch hunt. There is nothing wrong with what ER is doing (as far as I can tell from the site, and what's been posted here). The value of their certifications, like any certification, should be determined by their reputation. I think they should, however, make it more clear that their tests measure (basic) knowledge, rather than skill.

 

Not to add fuel to the already burning fire but... I work in a Fortune 200 company with a strong culture of Quality/Error Proofing/Waste Reduction as a leader of Continuous Improvement (i.e. Six Sigma). With that being said, I reached out to some colleagues in other sites who serve in roles similar to mine and everyone of them said that a CI or Six Sigma certification from ER would not place an employment candidate at an advantage over any others. Please keep in mind that this highly unscientific study was limited only to the certifications in Six Sigma and not inclusive of all of the certifications offered by ER.

On a side note, one of the responders came back with this notable insight: “Oh, Expert Rating. That’s the place where you can become certified in just about anything for around $10.00. I remember at one time they were offering an entire week of access to all of their test for like $50.00. Kind of an all-you-can-eat certification buffet.”

 

Swahili that's impressive )
PM me if you need help/infos on your language exams
Good luck with your studies

 

What I'm saying is that ER certifications have no validity or accreditation behind them. That is not a witch hunt, that is a fact.

In otherwords, what you're saying is that there is nothing wrong with ER awarding invald certificates. I disagree.

Incorrect. The value of their certifications, like any certification, should be determined by an accredited institution that has recognition. ER has no such accreditation or recognition.

 

This is a lot like the thread Pilot started months ago trying to get validation for the 8 hour Mini-MBA program.

 

It is indeed!

 

Here is the Link
http://www.degreeinfo.com/showthread.php?t=28736&highlight=mini+mba

 

ISO Verification

Im looking to take the Six Sigma course and with a price tag of $199 when others are charging $4000+ it sounds a bargin.

Ive been to 'Independant Association of Accredited Registrars Registered Company Search and they do verify Expertrating as ISO 9001:2008 certified. I've also read a lot of negative message boards about them s well. Be intersting to know if ayone who has taken the course found it of benafit when applying for a job.

 

Hope folks don't mind me bumping this as I'm considering a six sigma cert as well:

I don't have a dog in this fight, but they are (or say they are) ISO certified. "Personal Trainer certification" is irrelevant because we are talking six sigma. My point is it seems the jury is very much out on how well "recognized" they are or aren't.

Exactly. I don't think having this "list of Fortune 500" (etc) is more than fluff frankly, but I am quite confident few if any of your typical people working/hiring in I.T. are likely to know the diff. The big thing is having that cert vs who you got it from.

Your point about Fortune 500/etc is a good one; however, having a six sigma cert. currently holds considerable recognition in various I.T. fields, regardless where it comes from. I'm not saying it should (where it's from should matter), but it does.

No, it's not. They have (or again say they have, I cannot verify offhand, so at best the jury is out) ISO certification.

ISO is pretty darn recognized in IT, FYI. "Accredited" really applies more to colleges, so I'd give that an N/A.

I would like to hear from people who have tested out with ER and/or ASQ. The bad part about ASQ is you have to test in person and their test sites are EXTREMELY limited....I'm not wild about travelling 3 states away just to take a test.