Expert Rating Certifications

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  1. Pilot

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    Hello,
    Has anyone ever heard of this web site "www.expertrating.com"
    Excerpt from their web site:
    "ExpertRating an ISO 9001-2000 certified company offering online certification and training services to individuals and companies in over 60 countries. Apart from having certified over 200,000 individuals since 2001, ExpertRating is also offering employee testing services to leading companies such as Ericsson, Convergys Corp., IKEA Systems and Deltek Corp. to name a few."
    I am interested in the following certifications to boost my resume:

    Kaizen Certification with Six Sigma Green Belt with Project Management with Total Quality Management Certification (save $120) $229.99

    The price is amazing, however I wonder if it's of any value.

    Please let me know what you think,
    Regards,
    Pilot
     
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    Despite not having any recognized accreditation, Expert Rating, makes a lot of money certifying people in a wide variety of fields. In the fitness industry, their personal trainer certification will raise eyebrows and a good laugh, and that's about it. I would save my money and look for a real course leading to a recognized certification.
     
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    If you live or work in the USA then ASQ certfications are well regarded. They have both green belt and black belt 6-sigma certs
    http://www.asq.org/certification/right-for-you.html

    Membership in ASQ can be helpful in advancing ones career (and it looks good on a resume) - and no exams to become a member).
    http://www.asq.org/membership/why-become-a-member/overview.html

    CSUDH also has programs that lead to these qualifuications
    http://dominguezonline.csudh.edu/programs.php
     
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    I know for a fact that being six sigma, TQM etc... certified is highly desirable in today's job Market. What I am not sure about is if employers really pay attention to who is the certifying organization.in the case of "expert rating" they have a long list of fortune 500-1000 company employees who have been certified through them... therefore it lends some credibility..
    As far as I am concern If I can learn a few things that I can apply, and do it for the least amount of time and money and add value to my marketability than it's a big win.
    But then again some companies might look at these totally differently.....
    I'd like to know your thoughts
     
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    Knowing nothing about Six Sigma certifications myself ... I guess the question is, is there some sort of regulation (if so, by who?) of giving out Six Sigma certifications, or can anyone just put up a website and offer them for $9.99?

    If there is regulation, then it should be easy to check whether Expertratings.com is authorized by whichever body does that.

    If there is no real regulation, then the value of the certification would be entirely tied to the perceived credibility of the organization handing it out, in which case the certification from Expertrating would be worth less than from, say, CSUDH.
     
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    You've hit this one directly on the head. There is currently no governing body over six sigma certifications so, essentially, anyone can certify anyone they would like. However, as previous posters have mentioned, ASQ is perhaps held in the highest regard and are the only organization with the right to issue the ASQ CSSBB (Certified Six Sigma Black Belt). There has been talk about the Pyzdek institute working to become the "premier" issuer of SS certifications but there is nothing official as of yet.
     
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    If there are no governing body and given the fact that Expert Rating has provided training and certifications to numerous fortune 500/1000 companies that in itself should be sufficient as far as respectability when listed on a resume.
    I agree that it definitely does not hold the same value as ASQ or any accredited university program, but that's not what I am after...
    The fact remains that these certifications might put anyone of us on top of the list by a potential employer..
    What are your thoughts?
     
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    Continuing along the lines of your logic, if a college had no governing body and awarded unaccredited degrees to numurous Fortune 500 employees that in itself would likewise be sufficient as far as respectability when listed on a resume.

    In my view there are few, if any, global certifications with validity or recognition, which extends to Expert Rating Global Certifications.
     
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    I think the point is missed, or it is a just a different point of view.

    The aim is not to receive the best quality education or to be certified by the most recognized etc...institution.
    The purpose is to give an edge to a job seeking indivdual in this very though Market;
    Given this economy thinking out of the box and adding certifications that are seen by employer as desirable may make a difference between putting food on the table or making that car payment etc...
    As far as legitimacy goes, the fact that there are no accrediting agency and that expertrating has been chosen by numerous fortune companies to provide training for their employees is sufficient enough not to discredit the applicant if a company goes as far as verifying the issuer of the certification;
    If the whole employment is based solely on this type of certification than that is a whole other story, however if the applicant is already a holder of an accredited degree with substantial or meaningfull experience in a field, which by the way probably apply to lot of us in this forum, then having what is perceive as desirable training/certification can potentially make a difference in getting the Job.
    Let's keep the discussion going
    Thanks,
     
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    Just to be clear, this is not what ExpertRating claims, nor is it (as far as I know) true. They say on their website "ExpertRating has certified Several thousand individuals who are working with leading companies across the US and other countries." This doesn't mean that any Fortune 500 companies chose ExpertRating, or even recognize ExpertRating as being legitimate. All it means is that at least one employee of, say, Burger King (one of the companies on their list) at one time took at least one course through ExpertRating. This does not constitute endorsement by the company that they work for.
     
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    You are reaching by asserting that it has been chosen by Fortune 500 companies. My speculation is that many companies have hired employees that have produced unaccredited credentials. Because a company may have done so and not know the credential was invalid, is not the equivalant of endorsing it. Thus, the reasoning would be that it was not "chosen" by the companies that hired those employees.
     
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    Here is the excerpts and links from the website:

    "Below are some of the companies that trust ExpertRating with solutions to their pre-employment and skill evaluation requirements"
    Stanford University, GAP, UPS, Fox News,Ericson, Ikea,AON, the list goes on....
    http://www.expertrating.com/employers/employerslist.asp#a11

    "How ExpertRating helped leading companies with their testing needs"

    http://www.expertrating.com/employers/successtories.asp

    There are many other interesting links
    here is a review from the site top 10 reviews
    http://website-tutorials-review.toptenreviews.com/expertrating-review.html

    And below is what wikipedia says about about the top 10 review site.
    http://website-tutorials-review.toptenreviews.com/expertrating-review.html

    Based on the info above I think it has enough legitimacy and will not be thought of as a diploma mill by a potential employer.
    The worst case scenario will be to be seen as subpar compared to say "ASQ"... I think therefore that the theory is still valid, it can be a value added when applying for a job that considers this type of training or certifications as desirable...
    Lets keep the discussion going
    Thanks
     
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  16. From my professional neck of the woods:

    I'm amazed that they are so bold as to offer "translation" certification to and from a few languages. That's incredibly ambitious (audacious?), especially considering that they are nothing more than multiple choice tests. Real interpreter/translator exams require either a live performance test or a written translation test, each to be reviewed by a panel of experts :eek:.

    There are a few translation certifications that are considered valid internationally. One of them, here in the USA, is the American Translator's Association. ExpertRating is not at all on this same level, so it annoys me that thet have a "translation" certificate in the same way that a few of their other tests should annoy healthcare professionals.

    That being said- if one were to consider these to be simple language proficiency tests for customer or community service (which, in itself, makes no sense because ExpertRating does have basic language proficiency tests), there are also many more respectable ones of better stature, eg Berlitz and ATAFL. The latter has been even been evaluated by ACE for college credit.

    There may be a place for these exams [sings] somehoooow, somewheeeeere [/sings], but it would neither be in the language field, nor, in theory, the buisness or human services fields.
     
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    I am a native french speaker and speak a total of 4 languages fluently, which by the way helped me knock dozens of credits at excelsior :)).
    I took the test for the fun of it 9.99 and to have an idea of the quality of the test while I will agree with you that it is nowhere near the level of say OF NYU transalation certification, there is noway you can pass the test without having a solid knowledge of the language...So that being said the point still stand it might be subpar compared to others but it still has it's value...refer to my earlier posts about resume booster...
    By the way I see that you will be taking the french clep, if this is your "professional neck of the wood" the clep should be at the bottom of your list 12 Lower Credits compared to languagetesting OPI test 10 Lower 2 upper or NYU 4 upper or you could go with Athabasca 6 upper....
     
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    Expert Rating has no legitimate accreditation. As such, the credentials it issues are invalid. I'm inclined to believe that most employers don't know the credentials are bogus and, if they did, they would view ER as a diploma mill. I also find it interesting that ER does not mention which of its credentials are accepted by the small number of companies it claims accepts them.

    You have somehow managed to convince yourself that using an invalid credential is okay on the basis that others are using them. Regardless, it doesn't change the fact that the credential is bogus. I can tell you that in the fitness industry, you would be laughed at if you produced one of ER's personal trainer or other fitness certifications.

    Why, so you can promote a company that issues unaccredited credentials that are nothing more than bogus certifications?
     
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    Then I guess we have different points of view on the matter..

    I enjoyed the debate...Best of luck....
     
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    One more thing I just read CSI last quote
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    Lets keep the discussion going
    Thanks

    "Why, so you can promote a company that issues unaccredited credentials that are nothing more than bogus certifications? "

    I am not here to promote anyone other than to express my opinion; if we can't discuss freely our thoughts and respectfully agree to disagree on some topics than there is no point debating anything.
    There are other ways to prove a point other than trying to shut down the discussion "if this one" by using this kind of answers...
     

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