ENEB new programs with Università degli Studi Guglielmo Marconi

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  1. cacoleman1983

    cacoleman1983 Well-Known Member

    CLEA from what I remember was evaluated by IEE as a graduate certificate from an accredited institution / unaccredited program because it lacked RVOE from Mexico and it is a Spanish propio. IEE is pretty flexible with the multi-tier validation schemes but most evaluators are not. Other evaluators often just mark these type of programs as unaccredited degrees, continuing education (0 academic credit), or refuse to evaluate.
     
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  2. RFValve

    RFValve Well-Known Member

    Thanks, I will give them shoot. Dq wants 900 bucks for an evaluation from a non naces evaluator. They abuse the fact that they dont give transcripts or paper qualification so it is hard to evaluate them.
     
  3. RFValve

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  4. RFValve

    RFValve Well-Known Member

    Update, I learned that DQ does partner with a NACES evaluator so they can issue a NACES member report for your DQ qualifications but the price is 700 euros. So you DQ certifications can be transferred to US or Canadian credits through them. IEE might be an option at a lower price but not so sure if they will evaluate CLEA certificates and diplomas but the price is way cheaper.
     
  5. cacoleman1983

    cacoleman1983 Well-Known Member

    My guess is they will evaluate with or without the DQ qualifications although those will certainly help. The person's evaluation I found with the result I mentioned is on degreeforum. Here is the link to that page: https://www.degreeforum.net/mybb/attachment.php?aid=5454
     
  6. RFValve

    RFValve Well-Known Member

    Thanks again. I checked with some head hunters in Canada and I talked about these cheap masters from Italy, Mexico, etc. The feedback I got is that most employers are getting CVs loaded with low ranked credentials from coursera or similar places. I was told that nowadays employers check rankings and only top schools are noticed for jobs that require an MBA or Masters. From Mexico, anything that is not ITESM, UNAM and other ranked schools, it is really paper that can be just good for continuing education but not a game changer. I am very behind so I am still under the impression that any RA or NACES evaluated degree can work, I was told that only ranked schools matter for jobs that need graduate education. The only use for low ranked schools from Italy or Mexico if they pass the Canada WES or similar evaluation services, is that they can help with immigration. The same thing should be the case for the USA.
    In few words, the italian degree might be ok if you want to score points to immigrate to Canada or USA but don't think you will be getting a 200K offer after the degree.
     
  7. Messdiener

    Messdiener Active Member

    Based on years and years worth of posts here, I assume that most people are using these either for hobby degrees (such as Masstercursos' archaeology master's degree) or for professional development (such as studying Project Management at ENEB). If you're looking for top-tier positions that pay hundreds of thousands of US dollars per year, then propio degrees or Level 1 Master's from Italy probably aren't going to cut it.

    With all that said, I'm curious to know where DI members are listing these degrees on their resumes and CVs? Are you putting them under the general 'Education' section, 'Professional Development', 'Continuing Education', or some other category?
     
  8. RFValve

    RFValve Well-Known Member

    Very good question. The head hunter advised against putting the eneb masters degrees in the education section. He argued that the first thing the employer will do is to use chatgpt to check the prestige and it will come out as a cheap non official degree so employers might feel that you are trying to deceive them. He advised to put them in the continuing education section as masters level studies in project management, etc from spain. Giving too much focus on these credentials can create opposite effect as people will wonder how you have 5 masters from the same school.
     
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  9. Messdiener

    Messdiener Active Member

    Thanks for the tip!

    I do imagine that an Anglophone headhunter or HR staff member would have a very different reaction to reading "non-official degree" than someone in a Spanish-speaking country.

    As for having five master's degrees from the same school, this is also certainly a reason for concern. It's actually what's put me off taking a dozen different propio degrees from Formación Alcalá or the like. While several related topics look increasingly interesting, I'm concerned about having so many of these things on my CV.
     
  10. cacoleman1983

    cacoleman1983 Well-Known Member

    I'm currently putting ENEB credentials in my licenses & certifications section of my LinkedIn profile. These are experimental credentials for life long learning. The fact that foreign evaluators give so many ambiguous and varying results without giving them a full recognition status is enough for these not to be placed in the education section. I have an official accredited degree at every level and listing ENEB credentials would oversaturate that section.

    A typical LinkedIn and/or CV has only 1 to 3 entries/degrees in their education section. ENEB, Masstercursos, propios, private, or non-accredited institutions etc. belongs in the licenses & certifications section as this section is best for holding dozens of credentials. Even schools like the controversial ACLAS school in Atlanta Georgia, USA have been evaluated for continuing education internationally. SAQA (South African Qualifications Authority) recognizes ACLAS programs as a "Professional Degree" and I believe IEE evaluates them as professional training from the Canadian evaluation side. These work for the licenses & certification section and shouldn't be placed in the education section since they are not fully recognized academic credentials.
     
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  11. NotJoeBiden

    NotJoeBiden Well-Known Member

    There is not a direct equivalency to the spanish propio in the US education system, making it hard to directly compare to the rigid US system. Evaluation agencies place them somewhere between professional development and a graduate certificate, which seems fair imo. Some schools used the title, which roughly translates to "Master of Continuing Education" to describe these degrees. I would even go so far to say some are basically master's degrees, especially those that require rigorous study and a full thesis or capstone at the end. It is a graduate-level professional development, and the rigor is being held up by the reputation of the university rather than an independent accreditation agency or government body.

    I am absolutely astounded that in 2025, Linkedin still does not have a certificates section for professional and graduate certificates. These programs would best fit best there, as I dont consider them degrees or licenses/certifications. I personally believe you can place these degrees anywhere you would like, but I think it is best to clarify why. If you have an evaluation that says graduate certificate, then make that clear. It is a futile effort to continue to try and see where these fit in the US education system when there is no direct equivalency.

    You can also just combine them all into a single entry if you dont want multiple different entries on Linked-In. Better yet, if you are worried, then dont post them at all.
     
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  12. cacoleman1983

    cacoleman1983 Well-Known Member

    Another thing I would like to mention is that all certificates, degrees, and licenses can be placed anywhere on the resume when customizing it to a specific job. If any of the grey area degrees or certificates cater directly to the job, it may be best to place them in the education section or in rare cases the work experience section if some type of professional training like an internship or apprenticeship was attached to it.
     
  13. RFValve

    RFValve Well-Known Member

    I think it depends also on the person. The Italian masters from a no-name university is OK to have in your CV if you that no other masters degree else but that degree. However, most people in this forum already have graduate degrees from better universities so the value of an online non name masters degree from Italy is marginal.
    Credential inflation in a CV is problematic. You have to look good but not trying to deceive a prospect employers by presenting credentials that cost 100 to 150 bucks and take few months part time to complete as real masters degrees.
    Also, more a more, employers check if the school is ranked in case of an international school. If you get a master's from a spanish or italian school and live in the US, it might have value but it would need to be a ranked school to be worth something. CLEA, Isabel 1, etc are all no name schools with no ranking.
    In conclusion, all these credentials have value as continuing education but one has to be careful as trying to pass them as regular masters degrees.
     
  14. RFValve

    RFValve Well-Known Member

    I was going to put it in my education section until I saw the linkedin profile of this fellow (https://www.linkedin.com/in/tankwanhong/). He has literally more than 50 credentials from propio degrees from several online outfits similar to ENEB. If you clean his linkedin profile, he does have about 4 to 5 credentials from credible universities but these are hidden among the other 60 or 100 credentials from propios or unaccredited degrees.
    This being said, i think it is better to bundle them in the certifications area as Masters level studies in PM, Coaching, etc as one entry and not having like the individual above as 50 entries with 50 masters from online no names schools.
     
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