Dr. Gina Loudon

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  1. Bruce

    Bruce Moderator

    I saw this woman on one of the cable news shows (FOX, I believe), so of course I couldn't resist looking up her background. It's kind of like nailing Jello to the wall, all she mentions on her website is that her undergrad degree is from William Woods University (no issues there), and "one" of her Master's degrees is from Saint Louis University (great school), awarded after a fight where the circumstances aren't specific.

    About #Dr.Gina - #DrGina

    I've looked in several other places, and the best I've been able to do with her Ph.D. (supposedly in Human Behavior) are references to an "online university in California", but nothing more specific.

    Fair or Foul: John and Gina Loudon, from tea party to 'Wife Swap' | Opinion | stltoday.com

    I'm always curious about the backgrounds of "doctors" on television, and this one seems like a cipher. Anyone know anything further?
     
  2. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator

    Her LinkedIn profile says her PhD is from Fielding in the area of Human Development.
     
  3. RAM PhD

    RAM PhD Member

    Thanks for sharing this, Bruce. I thought I was the only one who did this kind of thing.
     
  4. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    Which means calling her PhD a degree from an "online school in California" is absurd. Fielding requires quite a bit of residential learning and faculty contact.
     
  5. Bruce

    Bruce Moderator

    Haha!! No, I do it all the time. I have yet to spot a complete fake on TV, other than the infamous "Love Doctor" Ruth Sucato (who I never actually saw, I just found her bio online). Law of averages though, I'm bound to find one sooner or later.
     
  6. Bruce

    Bruce Moderator

    When you want to do a hit piece on someone, pesky things like facts don't matter.
     
  7. Paul3

    Paul3 New Member

    You must be kidding me! Her "PHD" IS from a (one-building) "Online school in California." How dare you equate a second rate online PHD program to any traditional PHD program working closely with tenured, resident professors? I know several extremely bright individuals who could not finish their PHD in the strict 5-9 year timeframes, or their groundbreaking dissertation was not unanimously agreed on by the faculty committee; who would take offense at this program's doctoral award leniency.

    From Fielding's own website (http://www.fielding.edu/our-programs/school-of-leadership-studies/phd-human-development/)

    Fielding’s School of Psychology offers the only accredited clinical psychology doctoral program using a distributed delivery model.

    In a distance learning environment, students have the freedom to live and work in any community. Based on contemporary adult learning practices, our innovative program fosters creativity and offers customized degree plans, experiential learning, and optional concentrations.

    ...

    Fielding’s Common Doctoral Framework creates a pathway to degree completion in 3+ years. A combination of transfer credit and documented prior learning may enable qualified candidates to enter the program with advanced standing, thereby reducing the total cost of the program.
     
  8. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    Hi Paul! How was the trip from 1995? That's a long way, you must be exhausted!
     
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  9. Paul3

    Paul3 New Member

    LOL. Nope, sorry Steve, still don't believe the online degree is as meaningful as old school way, especially a PHD.
     
  10. jill anderson

    jill anderson New Member

  11. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator

    So, two newbies show up out of nowhere to dig up an old thread in order to throw mud at someone with legitimate degrees from an RA university. Interesting.
     
  12. Michigan68

    Michigan68 Active Member

    And why do you feel this way?

    I have never heard one negative item about Fielding.

    Kinda strange to just throw that out there.
     
  13. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    The APA and WASC disagree. And you are... who, exactly?

    Degree mill: Any school less prestigious, however slightly, than the one from which the speaker graduated.
     
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  14. heirophant

    heirophant Well-Known Member

    Interesting that 'Paul3' and 'Jill Anderson' both appear on this board on the same day, both seemingly intent on trashing the same woman. Neither one has posted anything except on this thread.

    I don't think that there's anything wrong with Fielding or with earning a doctoral degree from Fielding.
     
  15. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member


    Institutional Accreditation

    Fielding Graduate University is accredited by the WASC Senior College and University Commission (WSCUC).

    WASC Senior College and University Commission
    985 Atlantic Avenue, Ste. 100 Alameda, CA 94501
    Phone: 510-748-9001
    Fax: 510-748-9797

    APA Accreditation, on probation
    Fielding’s School of Psychology offers the only accredited (on probation) clinical psychology doctoral program using a distributed delivery model. The program is accredited on probation by the American Psychological Association (APA Commission on Accreditation, 750 First St. NE, Washington, DC 20002, 202.336.5979). The clinical psychology program received initial accreditation by the APA in 1991.

    Continuing Education Appro
     
  16. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator

    I don’t want to be in a position of defending Loudon because I don’t really know anything about her. However, if her PhD is in Human Development this could easily be in Developmental Psychology. I’m pretty sure I don’t agree with her politics but I really don’t see anything fraudulent in her background.
     
  17. Stanislav

    Stanislav Well-Known Member

    I find many things to disagree with Dr. Gina, starting with the large font "DR GINA LOUDON" on the book's dust jacket. However, you are absolutely right: finding her doctorate listing "fraudulent" is a big, big stretch. The publisher claims that it was their oversight; they may be covering her, or it may be the truth. Explanation from the editors above is plausible. It's like this:

    Mr. Editor Guy: So, what's your degree in?
    Dr. Gina: Human and Organizational Behaviour"
    EG: Never heard of it. Whatdat?
    DG: It's mostly psychology.
    EG: Oh OK, why didn't you just say so?

    Sloppy, but not "fraud" by any stretch. Her credentials are more than fine for a Fox News crowd book writing pundit.
     
  18. Stanislav

    Stanislav Well-Known Member

    Can't believe I'm defending another Trump crowd person with a doctorate. But it can't be helped: in both cases these are accredited degrees. Even when these are used to publish books about how "Trump is the most mentally sound President evah". This garbage will stand or fall on its own.
     
  19. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator

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