DL Dotorates from Boston U

Discussion in 'General Distance Learning Discussions' started by little fauss, Jun 23, 2005.

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  1. little fauss

    little fauss New Member

    http://www.bu.edu/disted/

    I didn't know about these, but apparently Boston U offers online doctorates in Music education and Physical Therapy now. In addition to that, they offer numerous Maters online, such as an MS in Management and Criminal Justice. Don't know if Jonnie's site includes these, haven't checked lately.

    Boston U's a pretty elite school, don't ya think? Now, if we can get one of these good institutions to do the DL Biz doctorate route, but I suppose many of you are tired of me beating that old drum.
     
  2. Tireman44

    Tireman44 member

    Or history. :)
     
  3. Ted Heiks

    Ted Heiks Moderator and Distinguished Senior Member

    I'll second that!
     
  4. adamsmith

    adamsmith member

    I think this is the place where you can copy half your dissertation (if your surname is King) and the university will ignore!
     
  5. Guest

    Guest Guest


    Very funny! Not!
     
  6. adamsmith

    adamsmith member

    I agree with you, Jimmy; it is NOT funny. But true, apparently!
     
  7. buckwheat3

    buckwheat3 Master of the Obvious

    Yes I will fall in line with Tireman and Ted on the History program.

    As to Dr. King, that is interesting, it was brought up one evening in a B&M graduate class I was taking " The Civil Rights Era", however the professor also said that history is made up of indivduals that are far from perfect in their personal lives!

    CORE, SNCC, etc etc..... many of the civil rights organizations had their internal rivalries for "Top Banana" too! But I guess they and the nameless soldiers within these orgs. were trying to push variants of the same theme into a common direction.
    my 1-1/2 cents worth
    Gavin
     
  8. lcgreen

    lcgreen New Member

    ...and if your surname is Washington (or Jefferson), you can portend a legacy of "freedom", but also have been a slave owner.

    I guess buckwheat3's professor was correct!
     
  9. adamsmith

    adamsmith member

    I am not sure of the logic to the argument that says that most great men of history have flawed characters, hence we should overlook all their transgressions (i.e. in the case of Boston University and Dr King's thesis).

    But it is a great source of inspiration to all us flawed individuals to know that sainthood does not have to go hand in hand with greatness. I have just finished reading the life of Lord Byron, that great 19th century English poet, and anyone who knows anything of his life will know what I mean.
     
  10. lcgreen

    lcgreen New Member

    The logic to MY argument is not that these "transgressions" should be overlooked...but, ARE overlooked in many instances.

    The severity of a man's "transgressions" are relative to another man's perspective. Which is worse, plagiarizing a dissertation, owning slaves, driving 20 over the speed limit on a residential street, being 40 and dating your neighbor's 18 year old daughter?

    I'm sure the subsequent decades of BU grads didn't shred thier diplomas nor rescind thier offers of admission upon learning of Dr. King's alleged "transgression".

    Adam, have you ever transgressed? If not, then I no longer have to pray to you...I can just send you a post ; )
     
  11. adamsmith

    adamsmith member

    I did use the inclusive 'we' when mentioning flawed individuals, so continue to pray for me.

    But I am not sure how you were intending to pray for me. Do I presume that if I told you that I was flawless, you would pray that I remain in this state, or that I see my sin?

    However, I have admitted that I am flawed, so are you still going to continue to pray for me? And if not, why not. Surely, whether I am flawed or not, I still need your prayers!

    The Rev. Dr King also believed in prayer. But prayer is not always the answer (Joshua Chapter 7).
     
  12. little fauss

    little fauss New Member

    One thing to understand about Washington is that while he owned slaves, he was extraordinarily progressive about it for 18th century Vriginia; and he always believed that the institution of slavery was, at bottom, wrong. His "slave ownership" was one quite different from Jefferson or virtually all of his contemporaries. He did not subscribe to the rabid racial superiority theories of Jefferson. He insisted on keeping all slave families together and retaining all slaves who wanted to stay at Mt. Vernon--he gave them a choice in the matter. As a result, virtually every slave he ever owned stayed at Mt. Vernon for life, as their treatment was comparatively wonderful there.

    Washington paid a price for his enlightened beliefs. The elderly and no longer productive slaves were cared for at Washington's expense; this caused a strain on his finances; even while President he teetered on the brink of financial insolvency.

    Finally, his will provided for the freedom of all of his slaves, and this was carried out to the letter upon his death. That was a radical--outrageous is the better word--measure in his day. He knew it threatened his legacy, as many of his contemporaries would think him a scoundrel for divesting his wife of one of his estate's greatest assets.

    Washington was not a perfect man, but he was a principled one--and a great first president.
     
  13. lcgreen

    lcgreen New Member

     
  14. little fauss

    little fauss New Member

    Mr./Ms Green:

    If you're going to tear my thesis to shreds, you need to remember to post your rebuttal!

    :D
     
  15. adamsmith

    adamsmith member

    Fauss, you have either left Green speechless, or he is engaging in some silent prayer for you!

    But well stated, Fauss!
     
  16. buckwheat3

    buckwheat3 Master of the Obvious

    King George III, upon hearing of George Washington having some wooden teeth: "I always knew his bark was worse than his bite."
    sorry..just had too!
    Gavin
     
  17. Tireman44

    Tireman44 member

    Oh my Gavin. Too funny. Too funny.
     
  18. lcgreen

    lcgreen New Member

    No. I was not left speechless (get over yourself), but had more fulfilling pursuits. In any case. George Washington and all of his slave owning cohort are morally no better than the rapist who is gentle and uses a condom, or a grammy winning musician who molests children. Although he may have been an "enlightened" oppressor, he was still an oppressor. One engaged in American history's darkest, most shameful periods.

    In case you are unclear about the definition of "slave", here's a little help...

    Main Entry: 1slave
    Pronunciation: 'slAv
    Function: noun
    Etymology: Middle English sclave, from Old French or Medieval Latin; Old French esclave, from Medieval Latin sclavus, from Sclavus Slavic; from the frequent enslavement of Slavs in central Europe
    1 : a person held in servitude as the chattel of another
    2 : one that is completely subservient to a dominating influence
    3 : a device (as the printer of a computer) that is directly responsive to another
    4 : DRUDGE, TOILER
    - slave adjective

    Let's see now, which is worse, a person who forces another person and their family, without benefit of equitable compensation, into servitude. Orrrrrr, someone who fights the injustices of those individuals, like the former, but uses the words of another with giving them proper credit? Hmmmmm....

    Furthermore Adam, reading is fundamental. I did not write that I was praying "for" you, but TO you, implying that if you have never transgressed, then you must be GOD (like).
     
  19. adamsmith

    adamsmith member

    Mr Green, I am God like. In fact, we all are, (Genesis 3:5) because we know the difference between good and evil! So I will grant you a dispensation from having to pray to me!

    You are very unforgiving towards Washington, who was very much a seemingly benevolent 'child of his time'. Dr King, however, was well aware of the university regulations regarding plagiarism.
     
  20. lcgreen

    lcgreen New Member

    without giving them proper credit
     

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