Degree from UMUC: is it appropriate not to mention that it's from UC?

Do you have any idea how segregated education worked in the south prior to 1950? As someone who lived in Maryland, your comments come across as nearly racist! Of course these colleges are named and treated separately with totally different systems! The USA has a difficult history, including pride in the successes that these segregated universities created despite all the odds they fought! Sheesh people! HBCUs have a level of autonomy that is a badge of pride.

 

Do people know that in the 1970s and 1980s there were UMUC classes taught on-board US Navy aircraft carriers and throughout European US military bases? I knew many people who started their UMD classwork in Germany or the Phillipines. It was very early accredited distance learning.

 

This thread is over two months old, and the tortured parsing and semantics are making my head hurt. Can we all agree on the following points:

1. UMUC != The University of Maryland, per Maryland law. They are separate universities that happen to be next door to one another.
2. Yes, it's confusing, and as Bruce rightly points out, intentionally so.
3. People who are dishonest will omit "University College" from their school's name regardless of what the style guidelines say.

I'm shocked, I tell you, SHOCKED, that people might try to get away with something like that. Next thing you know, people will set up bogus schools and sell degrees that require no work whatsoever, and dishonest people will use diplomas from these schools for career advancement. Still, at this point, this thread has pretty much come to this:



Thanks. Last person out, please turn off the light.

 

But only one of the four public HBCUs in Maryland -- Morgan State -- is autonomous. There is one other autonomous public school -- St. Mary's College of Maryland -- but it's not an HBCU.

The other three HBCUs in Maryland -- Bowie State, Coppin State, and University of Maryland Eastern Shore -- are part of the University System of Maryland, along with non-HBCUs like Towson University, Frostburg State, and University of Maryland, College Park. So in fact, most of the HBCUs in Maryland lack autonomy and a separate identity; they are not "named and treated separately with totally different systems".

As someone who lived in Maryland, the names and designations of public colleges and universities are confusing.

 

Hey Fortunato! Did you Photoshop that picture yourself? Turning a dead fax machine into a dead horse is a real winner for this thread. And your three points tell it all.

 

Google Images is your friend when you just can't say it with words.

 

I think they'd disagree with your assessment, but I had friends who taught at Howard and I got the full HBCU experience drilled into my head at faculty dinners. It's not like it was hard for me as a recruiter to memorize the 25 or so universities in the DC area all the way down to like Trinity or Potomac College. I fail to see a need to change when some of the schools have gone by those names by 50 years or more.

 

That's the understatement of the year!

 

Sorry for bringing this up again... but is University of Michigan any different?

I am considering a graduate program at Dearborn, and those guys claim that Dearborn is a true UMich campus, not a separate institution.

Anyone has any thoughts on UMich system?

 

Officially, the term "University of Michigan" seems to have two meanings.

First, it can refer to the entire UM system, including the main campus in Ann Arbor and the regional campuses in Flint and Dearborn. Officially, there doesn't seem to be a term like "the University of Michigan System"; it's just "the University of Michigan". So in that sense, yes, a Dearborn degree is a "University of Michigan" degree.

But second, it more commonly refers to the Ann Arbor campus specifically. Officially, there doesn't seem to be a term like "the University of Michigan, Ann Arbor"; the Ann Arbor campus also seems to be the "University of Michigan". So in this sense, no, a Dearborn degree is not a "University of Michigan" degree.

In practice, the different UM campuses appear to be separate institutions. For example, the Dearborn and Ann Arbor campuses have separate admissions, separate accreditation, separate athletic teams, and are ranked separately by USN&WR.

In my opinion, a Dearborn degree should not be described as a "University of Michigan" degree, because of the likelihood of confusion with the separate Ann Arbor campus. Yes, you could argue that a Dearborn degree is technically issued by the "University of Michigan", because that does appear to be the official name of the system -- but I still think that most people would regard this usage as misleading, because the other, more limited use of the "University of Michigan" term is more prevalent.

 

Thank you so much. That helps a lot.

I did some searching, and found what their diploma would look like:

http://sahawneh.com/images/Masters_Diploma_1.jpg

The interesting thing is that they have "1817" on the diploma, which is not the year when Dearborn was founded.. This only adds to the confusion.

 

The Regents of the University of Michigan confer degrees for Ann Arbor and Dearborn. There is no fraud on claiming either as UM degrees.

 

If the term "University of Michigan" refers to the system, then the claim is not fraudulent. On the other hand, then the claim is incomplete and ambiguous, since the system includes three different UM campuses (also Flint, as well as Ann Arbor and Dearborn).

Now, why would someone want to make an incomplete and ambiguous claim about something as important as their college degree?

Since the term "University of Michigan" is commonly used in another sense, to refer to the prestigious Ann Arbor campus specifically, one possible motive for providing incomplete and ambiguous information could be to mislead people about the exact campus that was attended. Many people would perceive this strategy as unethical, regardless of whether or not it is technically fraudulent.

 

The campuses are part of the same system that simply calls itself "The University of Michigan" (not "The University of Michigan System"). The campuses are individually known as "The University of Michigan - Ann Arbor" (not "The University of Michigan"), "The University of Michigan - Dearborn," and "The University of Michigan - Flint." The USN&WR ranking names the #26-ranked school as "University of Michigan - Ann Arbor" (http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/college/national-search/page+2). The homepage of UM-Flint's School of Management also mentions the "University of Michigan" system and lists each campus at the bottom of the page as "The University of Michigan - Flint," "The University of Michigan - Ann Arbor," and "The University of Michigan - Dearborn" (http://www.umflint.edu/som/).

So the term "University of Michigan" is generic. Regardless, one should always include the campus attended on one's resume since it's a basic and simple fact.

 

Refers to the founding of the system, which UM-Dearborn belongs to.

 

Moreover, UM graduates are members of only ONE (not three) alumni association: the University of Michigan Alumni Association (http://www.umd.umich.edu/universityofmichigan/).

 

I think Caldog sums this thread up quite nicely. Don't be ambiguous and/or misleading. Can we move on now? Please?

 

UMBC reputation?

What is the reputation of UMBC? I am almost finished with my master's online so the question for me is really moot but it is good to know what the answer is.

 

What school is UMBC?

 

University of Maryland-Baltimore County.

List the degree as University of Maryland-Baltimore County. No shame in that school. USN&WR ranked them as the #1 most up and coming school in the nation (for undergrad) this year.

http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/national-uc-rank