Century Targeted Potential Students

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  1. jugador

    jugador New Member

    Can there be any doubt that Century targets students in China, Africa, and India who might not be familiar with....oh, I don't know...the concept of US ACCREDITATION?! BTW, Century was once notorious for having the overwhelming majority of its own faculty with PhDs from you-know-where, but to learn that information nowadays, you have to register to get their catalog via snail mail. Moreover, I find it interesting that they use British English throughout their website (e.g., "catalogue" vs "catalog") which obviously is more fitting for English-speaking students from the former British colonies like India, Kenya, and Hong Kong who (through no fault of their own) likely don't have a clue about the importance of regional accreditation for US colleges. Scroll down and check out the photos. And oh yeah, don't forget to see how you can buy your very own CU class ring! I still think some of the British distance education programs are among the most deceptive in the world for the manner in which they exploit foreigners (as evidenced by the fact that so many of them are prohibited by British law from enrolling UK citizens), but the good ol' USA is doing its part too.

    http://www.centuryuniversity.edu/programs/index.html
     
  2. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    This is a school that once halted enrollments in its doctoral programs in order to apply for DETC accreditation. The brief attempt at accreditation is gone; the doctorates back in place.

    This is the kind of school some have defended as an adequate choice for some people, the kind of school that doesn't deserve the scorn it receives. Puleeeeze.:rolleyes:
     
  3. jugador

    jugador New Member

    People who have shelled out big bucks to CU would rather eat a bucket of worms than admit they screwed up.
     
  4. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    On top of that, people who've made similar decisions at similar schools will defend it just to protect "one of their own."
     
  5. RXI

    RXI New Member

     
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  6. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    Re: Re: Century Targeted Potential Students

    I can. Century University was never approved--nor were any of its programs approved--in California. It always operated under section 94310(c)--State Authorized. Schools in that category didn't go through an approval process of any kind. To become Authorized, all a school had to do was submit a 13-part application attesting to various aspects of the operation, and an affadavit attesting that there were at least $50,000 in assets dedicated to the school. (But since this was never checked, some operations were quite creative in their asset calculations.)

    When California began requiring all unaccredited schools to go through the Approval process, many changed mailing addresses, "moving" to jurisdictions with no oversight of unaccredited schools. The University of Beverly Hills, Golden State University, Kennedy-Western University, and Century University, to name a few. Others went out of business.

    When Century "relocated" to New Mexico, that state didn't regulate unaccredited schools. It does now, but "grandfathered" Century under the old law, so Century continues to skate by. The founder, Don Breslow, stayed behind in California, running it from there, but it now appears the school is actually operated from New Mexico.

    The difference between Century (and K-WU and the rest of the lot) and a diploma mill is something frequently argued around here. But in the rest of the world, such nuances are lost. A degree from a diploma mill and one from Century would function just about the same--unless the diploma mill had a better-sounding name (like something with "State" in the title--i.e. Columbia State University).
     
  7. Ted Heiks

    Ted Heiks Moderator and Distinguished Senior Member

    Interesting! I thought the Brits had calendars rather than catalogues. - Theo
     
  8. jugador

    jugador New Member

    And don't forget the ACI-Three Stooges story often cited in this forum. ACI was the former accreditor of Century. I could start a whole lively new thread just about ACI! BTW, I know virtually all colleges offer class rings, but personally, I find that noting the fact on the home page is tacky and shallow. But hey, that's just my opinion.

    http://www.quackwatch.org/04ConsumerEducation/dm3.html
     
  9. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    Agreed. It looks like they're selling the trappings of the degree, not the education.
     
  10. BillDayson

    BillDayson New Member

    I can't comment on Century specifically.

    But in general, whenever I see American non-accredited schools putting lots of effort into marketing their programs in places like Asia, I consider that a major red-flag.

    For one thing, it suggests that the school is being run as a business with an emphasis on maximizing revenues. I prefer those non-accredited schools that exist because they actually have something that they want to teach.

    And it makes me wonder how a school that is so evanescent domestically that it treats American accreditation as an insurmountable burden can simultaneously operate the large marketing networks that we so often see across the seas.

    It makes some of these places look like Potemkin-universities: false-fronts, empty stage-sets. Marketing instruments intended to separate Asian students from large sums of money.

    And who can blame foreign students in countries with paternalistic governments from choosing the government approved schools and dismissing the private and voluntary accreditation as unimportant? It's a no-brainer.

    This fraudulent overseas crap is the aspect of American DL that I'm least proud of.
     
  11. John Bear

    John Bear Senior Member

    And where is Neil Hynd when Century needs him?
     
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  12. John Bear

    John Bear Senior Member

    Neil Hynd:Century = Neil Hayes:Knightsbridge = Neil Young:Landing on Water
     
  13. Jack Tracey

    Jack Tracey New Member

    While I understand the point you're making , my experience is that the "class ring" is typically an American phenomenon.
    Jack
     
  14. fnhayes

    fnhayes New Member

    John, Can you please explain this inane comment further?
     
  15. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    Well years ego my manager at work was "earning" a degree from CU mew Mexico.
    He had AAS from CIE, and industry certifications.
    Our employer sponsored his education as long as he got B or higher score.

    I reviewed their material and amout of work he had to complete, credit was given for the AS degree.

    I concluded that in any other school that is legit the amount of work and proctored exams would have been 4 times more.

    No proctored exams, read a book and write a paper was their method.

    Was education provided ?
    Yes, what kind? The same kind that one can get in the local library or book store.

    Years later he went to earn a degree from World college that accepted his ASS from CIE and even gave him a fiew credits for one of his certs.

    Learner
     
  16. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    For someone that complains CONSTANTLY elsewhere about the tenor of commentary on this board, referring to someone's comment as "inane" is hardly constructive.

    You came back here to post THAT?:rolleyes:
     
  17. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    Hi Neil! Welcome back! I'm not John but I enjoyed John's post and I'll explain my enjoyment/amusement.

    There are two less than wonderful schools listed and the school's associated defender. Notice that all three names are Neils. This is the association with the third pair. This was a disaster album that some thought severly damaged Neil Young's reputation. The song also associated in my mind to Bridge Over Troubled Waters, Simon & Garfunkal which also added to my personal amusement.
     
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  18. uncle janko

    uncle janko member

    Quit picking on Dr Hayes. He's just miffed that he didn't get a class ring.
     
  19. John Bear

    John Bear Senior Member

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