Central University of Nicaragua Degree Scheme

Maybe I was having a 'senior moment' Rich. I was just joking (or trying to) about not using an 'iffy' Costa Rican degree - which, of course you DON'T have. I'm sure you might remember a bit about them, though. Innumerable old threads on defunct DD about Empresarial (UNEM - and being UNEMployed) and San Juan de la Cruz etc.

Just silly ol' me. Not important.

 

And yes - I know - sometimes I try too hard. I'm working on it - honest. -

 

And yet, some get away with it. People practicing with their Master's level license while touting a Doctorate from some new age BS school that would never have a chance at accreditation, I've seen it quite a bit in California.

I bet there are a lot more like her they just don't talk about it publicly. They just want the money. They don't care about the damage they're doing to their own profession or the financial bondage they're helping to put these students in. There are states that limit the number of people one supervisor can supervise, I know New York limits it to 5 in certain fields, but it's a double-edged sword because while that limit can put a cap on the greed, it also limits the number of available spots for people who need the hours to qualify in a field where it's already super limited and hard to get. There has to be a technology solution. After all, med schools use DxR, some use it heavily, the case method is tried-and-true. Something like it that combines it with the clinical part to reduce the reliance on supervisor hours could make a big difference.

 

You have to ask them. I hold an engineering license, technically you cannot use a PhD in metaphysics if you are selling yourself as an engineer in a business card but a psychotherapist might argue that his PhD is in metaphysical psychology. In Canada, there is no law against the use of unaccredited PhDs but against the use of reserved titles. You can complain to an association that someone is using an unaccredited PhD but the reality is that few have the time to worry about this, only in this forum people like us have enough time in their hands to worry about theses issues, the rest of the population can care less.

 

It is not from Costa Rica but from Mexico, if I recall Rich was doing a PhD at MIGS in Mexico but dropped out. I don't think he graduated from a Costa Rican school. UNEM at some point was one of the few schools offering non residential PhDs so few americans were doing PhDs there, this is before all the options that we have now.
Some people from this forum did degrees from places like South Africa, Costa Rica, etc because there were no other options that were affordable.

 

No wonder you've seen it. California is the capital of the PLANET for New-Age BS schools. Trouble is, they're also largely DISTANCE schools - so we get their grads here in Ontario, Canada too. And so it goes -- forever and without end, it seems.

 

I wasn't referring to Rich's experience at MIGS. He has written all about that -- all under the bridge long, long ago. I was merely trying to make a joke about a bogus degree from Costa Rica that he DOES NOT possess -never did and I'm sure, never would.

UNEM? From the WIKI:

"In 2013 the university was described by The Costa Rica Star as "infamous" for its involvement in several diploma mill allegations, in cases where students paid to receive degrees without following a course of study.[7] The university has awarded PhD degrees to people in Germany and the United States.[7] A 2008 investigation by Der Spiegel failed to find any legitimate campus or professors associated with UNEM."

UNEM is what it is.

 

Sorry, I did not get the joke either. Maybe a degree in entertainment might help you even if it is unaccredited.

 

Looks like you missed my explanation and apology to Rich as well. Try reading for comprehension next time.

 

Let me guess.

The joke is that you also have a fake degree from Costa Rica. You just don't use it.

edit: Lots of stuff added since I started this. Anyway it looks like my guess is correct.

Not a joke, it seems to me that you can't be absolutely certain that no one ever did check on your degree unless you never said where it was from I suppose?

 

Yes, I have to. Agreed.

PhD is a Doctorate. "Doctor" is a reserved title. I think it's arguable that some "PhD" by virtue of a New Age degree from California is holding him/herself out to be a "doctor" if they promote their "doctorate." Not cool, or shouldn't be - to a professional association, at least as I see it.

That theory should be tested... again and again until it fails.

 

I'm interested in that too. Before Rich removes the mystery - let me guess --- maybe Alberta? Because it's right across the border from Montana - and I know Rich enjoys Montana. Or maybe BC - the coastal thing? It really is beautiful.

 

The Professional Association wouldn't accept an unaccredited Master's from one of those "metaphysical" schools for licensing as a psychotherapist. Why would they look benignly on any use of a PhD from such a school? Answer - they wouldn't.

 

I thought maybe it was a MIGS thing. And yes, I've had a ton of things to say about Empresarial, which was just like MIGS and all of these propio and off-shore arrangements. We just didn't know about back then.

 

Truthfully, I've only spent a couple of hours in Ontario (Niagara-on-the-Lake) and a few more in BC (Vancouver). Both, however, made me wish I could see a lot more. Thinking about Canada, and what a loyal ally it has been to the USA and to NATO, makes me smile.

Montana? No, that's my wife's thing. She's from western Montana, born and raised about 100 miles from BC. It's pretty, though.

 

I'm fine with my experience with MIGS. Nothing at all to be ashamed about. I was invited in when it looked like they were going to build something, and handed them over to the state authorities in Florida when it became clear they were not. There was another um-person who made are more of it that it ever was.

 

I've never had anything to do with any school in Costa Rica, nor with UNEM anywhere. I've just written about them.

 

That situation was really bifurcated. Under California's 3-tier system (Accredited/Approved/Authorized), a lot of dodgy operations were started. But some very good schools also came from that, including CIIS, Saybrook, and others.

 

Good point. It's certainly not schools like CIIS or Saybrook that I was referring to. Top of the list of schools I was referring to, are the two 'metaphysical' ones that often award a student 3 degrees in a single year, culminating in a "doctorate." Last I looked (long time ago) the whole 3-credential whack was about $1500. I'm sure it's somewhat more now.

I think if someone wants this level of um - "Doctoral Education," their best bet might be the highest award of the Universal Life Church - Doctor of the Universe. Pretty impressive-sounding, huh?

At the low-price end of ULC offerings, you can get a certificate as a Jedi Knight for $10. Wait up, Obi-Wan-Kenobi! I'm on my way. ULC HQ is in Modesto.

Yes - California, Land of Opportunity!