CCU and DETC accreditation

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  1. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    Re: Regarding California Coast University!

    That certainly adds information. Until now, there was no information that CCU was even being considered this time around.

    If they get accredited, DETC will announce it. If not, DETC will not. Neither will CCU, I suspect. A reintroduction of their doctoral programs would be a big clue. But perhaps it will all be moot and CCU will make it.
     
  2. Rich,

    I was told by Ms Reilly to call back and find out next week regarding the results of the visit. I took it to mean either positive or negative. I don't believe they are reintroducing their doctoral programs at the present time, but I could be wrong. I will possibly be applying for reinstatement into their combined MBA/DBA or PhD program in early February, but I was originally enrolled in the ninetys and do not fall under their new guidelines. I know allot of people want them to fail, but I don't think they will. By the way, are you saying the reintroduction of their doctoral programs is an indication of them possibly failing to receive accreditation by DETC? They have been in existence for more than 30 years.
     
  3. Kirkland

    Kirkland Member

    I think the point is that CCU might reopen applications to their doctoral programs if they choose to no longer pursue DETC accreditation, which I think is unlikely. Given that, it is doubtful you will be reinstated since there is a moratorium on new applicants even though they continue with their doctoral programs for those enrolled prior to June 03. You may have to wait until (1) CCU becomes accredited (2) DETC is granted the authority to recognize doctoral level programs (3) CCU doctoral programs are approved by DETC. This could all be several years down the road.
     
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  4. Rod,

    I already have the approval from Dr. Tucker to be reinstated into the Combined MBA/DBA or PhD in Business Administration. The entire program will cost me another $3,895, plus books and I have until next month to pay my $200 downpayment, if I am making monthly payments. I have 90 days from mid November 2004 to make that payment and send in my application for reinstatement. Not bad, is it?

    Where else can one receive a MBA, which will probably be DETC accredited and a PhD (California approved) for less than $5,000.
     
  5. Guest

    Guest Guest

    I have mixed feelings on this issue. On the one hand, I would like to see CCU accredited by DETC. I think it is a good school that needs some improvement in a few areas. It is certainly no degree mill.

    On the other hand, CCU has been viciously attacked throughout the years that I'm afraid if they finally received DETC accreditation, some will begin to question DETC. I know DETC has had its detractors throughout the years.

    Be all this as it may, I believe CCU will make it this time.
     
  6. Kirkland

    Kirkland Member

    Cyberspace: It is a great deal and good luck with your studies! It contradicts my understanding of how this works as part of conforming to DETC requirements, but maybe they were given a special dispensation to allow reinstatements.

    Jimmy: I think it's been an uphill battle for DETC ever since they seriously got into the postsecondary market. I do think they are used to a certain level of controversy by now and have learned how to work within a conservative environment. I agree with you that CCU has been attacked in the past, sometimes viciously. I think it is mostly due to the simplistic perception that unaccredited schools (ignoring its State Approved status) with a non-campus structure are tantamount to illegal and shoddy education... it is surprising to me when I read some media types discuss the non-campus issue as if anything other than B&M is crap. ...oh well, builds character. It's a shame that so many mills have ruined it for the good guys.
     
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  7. uncle janko

    uncle janko member

    Considering what some folks say about degreeinfo on other fora, I think it's awful...nice...that they post here. :rolleyes:
     
  8. Mary A

    Mary A Member

    This is clearly an exception that has been made, most likely as a result of how PhD_Cyberspace had to leave his original program with CCU. CCU would not, in my opinion, jeopardize their accreditation for the sake of one student. They are still teaching out their pre DETC application doctoral students so as I said, there is probably more to this story than meets the eye.

    Mary A
     
  9. Hello Mary

    Dear Mary A.

    Thanks and please let me explain. I became severely ill in the early 90s and had to withdraw for medical reasons. In fact, I almost died. I give all the credit to the Lord for healing me and now I am ready to resume my studies. Due to the circumstances, which I explained to Dr. Tucker, he allowed me to be reinstated to my original program.
     
  10. Guest

    Guest Guest

    Disagreeing with a particular post would be the appropriate method rather than denigrating the entire forum and lumping everyone into one generalized category.
     
  11. CCU accreditation was postponed, for the reason of the Susan C. and associates carnival show.

    Is interesting that in the Contreras-Susan C. carnival, no Lawyer testify about the Law concerning the Higher Education in USA.


    :cool:
     
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  12. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    IF we don't hear from DETC regarding CCU and IF CCU re-introduces their doctoral programs, we MIGHT infer a failure to secure accreditation. This was the pattern with both Century and SCUPS.

    A lot of "ifs." We'll see something next week, I guess.
     
  13. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    There is no evidence that this is true. It might be, but no one has demonstrated it.

    We don't really know why CCU wasn't accredited last time around.

    As for Senator Collins' hearings, they showed in no uncertain terms that schools like CCU were conspiring with their students to get around legal restrictions about using federal funds to pay for unaccredited degree programs. CCU, IIRC, turned over data that brought this fact to light.

    Again, there is no indication that one thing (CCU not being accredited) has anything to do with the other shenanigans regarding federal funding).
     
  14. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    Who, besides Levicoff, has "viciously attacked" CCU?

    While the accrediting of some schools (those who claimed WAUC accreditation until they got DETC's) was decried as reflecting negatively on DETC, I don't recall that connection being made regarding CCU. It hasn't been a common topic of discussion on this board, has it?
     
  15. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    A tactic used to the point of propaganda on Crabb's Coffee Clutch, no?

    1. Ban people, sometimes pre-emptively.
    2. Mis-state the banned people's points.
    3. Refute those "points" with unsupported and skewed information.
    4. Declare intellectual "victory."
    5. Repeat.

    Mix in a little shilling for outfits like Knightsbridge and you're set!
     
  16. The influence of the surreptitiously - secretly - mysterious telephone calls.

    :cool:
     
  17. uncle janko

    uncle janko member

    Rushing to, um, judgment, or, nobody here but us sneaky chickens

    I confess. It was me. I melted the chocolate exlax into the pizza the DETC guys ordered out for just when they were gonna approve CCU last time around. It's all part of my evil "RA or no way" agenda which I cleverly conceal by sticking up for CCU, TRACS schools, etc., etc., and which degreeinfo cleverly conceals by almost never taking issue with me when I defend non-RA (and even some unaccredited) schools.

    Mary A., I'm really sorry about the pizza incident. They made me do it.
     
  18. Dr. Latin Juris and Other Forum Members,

    I just got off the telephone with Dr. Tucker at CCU and the accreditation process has not been postponed and we should know next week regarding their status. Like I said, I am optimistic.
     
  19. Mary A

    Mary A Member

    Re: Hello Mary

    That's what I thought. Thanks. I really like the people at CCU and could not imagine they would intentionally do anything wrong.

    Mary
     
  20. With PARI PASSU and PARI RATIONE

    I hope and expect, that the accreditation corporation gives a good Due Process with PARI PASSU and with PARI RATIONE to CCU and to the others institution of higher education that are in the process.
     

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