Greetings All, I left University of Phoenix Online after 3 classes with them, I mainly left due to the group work and the mandatory log-in times. Other than those items I enjoyed UofP. I started classes with Capella University and I was informed that there was some group work to no group work. My first 3 classes (1 being an introduction class) all require group work and I'm totally confused and lost in the classroom. I chose Capella over St. Leo due to very small reasons & 1 in particular was out of pocket expenses upfront. Can anyone that has attended Capella or St. Leo place me on the correct path, I have thoughts of dropping Capella even though I just started with the school on Monday 7/5. Please advise.
Hello Creid, Congratulations on continuing your education! In order to provide a specific answer to your question, it may be helpful to find out what degree program you are enrolled in. It has been my experience (wife went to Capella) that each discipline is a little different in method. Let me know and I may be able to point you in the right direction. For the record - my wife only took a few courses that were "group oriented" at Capella. Meanwhile, I am enrolled at Northcentral University (PhD - Psych) and have no and will have no "group work" courses. Best of luck to you!! peACE, ACE
Ace, Thank you for the informative post. I am striving to achieve a Bachelor's degree in management. I'm not looking for any specific management, but just general management degree instead of the BSBA or BSBM. Thanks,
Hi Creid There are lots of similiar programs with lower cost and better reputations than Capella and St. Leo. I would first look at DL programs from in state schools and then branch out from there. If you would like detailed advice please tell us what state you are in, why specifically Management as opposed to a related business major, and your top five criteria in choosing a program. Good luck in your search.
Dave, Thanks for your reply. In my position as a service manager for North America, which including Canada, I conduct a lot of traveling which prohibits me from attending a brick & mortar school. I am located in the Cincinnati, OH, area. The only reason I specified a general management degree was due to not needing the intense studies of accounting and some of the other classes that the BSBM & BSBA require. I do have the GI Bill due to I served in the Navy and presently in the Air Force Reserves. Thanks,
creid, get a copy of your CCAF transcripts, ACE course reviews (of CDC courses) and then take a look at several degree completion programs. Ohio University has one and the Big 3: www.tesc.edu www.cosc.edu www.excelsior.edu and you may find the following useful: http://spectrum.troyst.edu/~distance/dist_ed/#Undergraduate There are some resident experts on CLEP, etc... on the forum that may make those accounting classes easier to swallow. Not to dissuade you but one of the issues I had was having to pick up some of those classes you are trying to avoid when I looked at graduate programs. Before you throw out the two you mentioned take a look at your long term plans and if a graduate degree is in the future be looking at the prerequisites for some you find interesting. Good luck
I'm not sure I understand why you're looking for a degree program in management without group work - it seems to defeat the whole purpose of studying a discipline whose very core is learning to "play well with others". Not to be naysayer or a jerk, is management really what you want to do if you can't stand to work with other people?
The only experience that I have with group work was with University of Phoenix Online. Each class was a bad experience with a few of the classmates doing all the work and the non-participaters getting credit the same credit for not working. In my current field, as a manager for a service department, I utilize group work on almost a daily basis. Group work is the only means of getting everyone involved to complete the task at hand more expeditiously and keep many parties informed. It may seem that I have a bias opinion with group work, but I was given this opinion from my experience at UofP.
I understand that you had a bad experience with group work at UofP, but still, my point stands - asking for management education without group work is somewhat akin to asking for a chemistry education without those pesky laboratory classes. Cutting out the group work cuts out the heart of what you're meant to learn. Instead of looking for a program without group work, perhaps it would be more productive (and perhaps, more realistic!) to look for a school that has instituted a feedback program to allow you to evaluate your classmate's participation in group activites. I know my wife's Financial Accounting class at North Carolina State University had such a method, but I don't believe they offer an entire undergraduate program through DL. My school, the University of Wyoming also has a mechanism in place for some classes, but it does not offer a general management degree via DL, only a BSBA.
Dave hayden Hi Dave hayden, did you have any immediate suggestions about strong dL phD or DBA programs?
Hi Creid Business isn’t really my area, but I’ll give what help I can. For many the Big Three (Charter Oak SC www.cosc.edu , Excelsior C www.excelsior.edu and Thomas Edison SC www.tesc.edu ) offer the quickest and most economical bachelor’s degree. Like I mentioned previously, I think local B & M schools that offer DL programs are often the best choices. In Ohio there is an online database here: http://www.ohiolearns.org/catalog/degrees_form.php . It looks like Franklin University offers a BS in Management as you requested. If you are willing to look at other majors, there are many choices there. I like the DL business bachelor’s program at WSU (http://distance.wsu.edu/degrees/business_administration.asp ). Another school I think is a good choice outside of Ohio is Troy State University (http://www.tsufl.edu/distancelearning/advisor/Bachelor%20of%20Science%20in%20Management.htm ). These are just a few programs seem to meet your needs. I am sure there are dozens of others. I personally would stay away from schools like U of P, AIU, and St Leo that are primarily profit oriented. Capella and Walden I see as good schools but because of their DL focus may not have the same utility vs cost as other schools. Any way I hope this is helpful and perhaps others can give additional help. Good luck in your search.
Re: Dave hayden Hi Ultimale Business is really not my area but I think there are several offerings in that area via DL. Hopefully others can offer some guidance here because my knowledge is so limited in that area. Good luck.
You're not alone about the horrid course room at Capella - check out Capella University Sucks Good Luck.
Hi, I'm currently enrolled at Capella University's School of Technology. At first I had reservations about me attending a school that is virtually located thousands of miles away. Even though the tuition is extremely high and for the first month I had problems logging in and posting....it seems now that they've got their act together. Believe me, I called them every single day to find out what the heck was going on. Never got a call back and never was given an explanation what was going on. As soon as I shot an email to the head honcho, believe me shit starting happening. The last thing they want to hear is a student that is in the process of filing a complaint with their accreditation organization. Now it seems that everything is running smoothly. Glitches here and there....but I can live with it. The courses are much longer than UPoL (12 weeks instead of 5), but there is no testing, no quizzes......but a heck of a lot of discussions and projects. Ofcourse this does not compare to the traditional University, but the stress level is lower compare to attending class. Other thing, you might say that their tuition is high.....well $1500 per course is outrageous, but I did some research and it is about $150 more than other major universities that offer DL courses. Remember, Capella offers Virtual courses, not distant learning.....there is a difference. If I had to do it again....I wouldn't....too high. but I only need 6 more courses.....so why quit now.
Management or Leadership creid: Is the degree required by your employer or just something you want to acquire ? Management is traditionally an area of business so there probably isn't any way to get around the accounting, econ and finances courses. Would a degree in leadership or organizational leadership work ? Bellevue University offers undergraduate degrees in business, management and leadership. The Pennsylvania State University - World Campus offers a BS in Organizational Leadership - Penn State is an excellent school.
reply I would go with St. Leo. They have a good reputation and have been around for many years. That is just my honest opinion.
It all depends on what you have as an ultimate goal. I did not want to spend an arm and a leg to get an MBA, but still wanted to find a program where I'd have to work. (I have a colleague who is doing her MBA through UofP and when we have compare our courses and our workloads side-by-side, she'll pay 3x as much for the same degree. ) If name recognition (like a Penn State or Texas Ai&M) sn't a big deal to you, don't overlook Amberton. They have a couple of BS degrees with a management emphasis and the price is certainly right ($200/credit both undergrad and grad). I'm working on an Amberton MBA in Strategic Leadership and I've been very pleased with the program so far. I've got 2 other degrees from B&M state universities and when I get done with my MBA, I'll be just as proud of it as I am of those.
You might want to look into Walden. I am finishing my first quarter there and so far I am happy with the progam. I highly recommend Walden. They are very responsive to needs and questions.
Dr. Gina, fruedian slip? From your link top left corner of page: "DistanceLearing · Distance-Learning-Discussions" you might want to put "n" in learning but hey isn't most "learing" from a distance then again I have always been a Shakespeare fan....
