Canterbury University

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  1. sdanyluk

    sdanyluk New Member

    I just registered on this site and am not quite sure how this works, so I'm just going to ask my question. Does anyone know anything about the following institution:

    Canterbury University
    193 Market Street
    Hyde
    SK14 1HF
    Cheshire
    United Kingdom

    I have a list of diploma mills and unaccredited universities, but I don't see this on either of them and cannot find a listing for it. I am wondering if anyone knows if it is a diploma mill or where I could find this information out? Thank you.
     
  2. MichaelR

    MichaelR Member

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  3. Ian Anderson

    Ian Anderson Active Member

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  4. sdanyluk

    sdanyluk New Member

    Thank you very much.
     
  5. Migara

    Migara member

    Try Canterbury University of Kent.... or The University of Canterbury at Kent.
     
  6. sdanyluk

    sdanyluk New Member

    I tried that, but she did not go to either. When I asked the applicant she gave me the address listed above and a phone number that sounds fake. I'm pretty sure she's just lying, but I wanted to check all angles first.
     
  7. MichaelR

    MichaelR Member

    you can also require the applicant to have an evaluation done. That way the onus of saying its a mill is out of your hands.
     
  8. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    The UK website does not list a Canterbury University. That means that the institution must claim it's degree granting authority from elsewhere. However, it is a UK sounding name. That means to me that it is most likely that it is a degree mill that choose that name to try and trick people into thinking that it is a UK university.

    The UK allows degree mills to operate freely from a UK address as long as they don't claim to sell UK degrees and they only accept victims outside the UK. (They're not supposed to use the word University in their name either but that part of the law is apparently never enforced.)
     
  9. They are fake, fake, fake. Based in the "Seychelles" (where they have an offshore front) and associated with the infamous Irish International University (another scam), and Cambridge Intercontinental University (yet another scam), and formerly sporting Dr. Azad of St. Regis fame as one of their "professors", they are nothing but a flim flam, hose job, take yer money and run kind of college....

    They will verify your degree though, if you WRITE to them or have your employer do so. Like anyone's gonna believe that!

    Also, their "transcript" comes on cardstock, darker brown than a paper bag. That'll cost ya an extra $150, and you get credit for classes you didn't even know existed, much less took!

    My advice - RUN, and run fast, from this sack o' dung....
     
  10. George Brown

    George Brown Active Member

    Mmm, I am pretty sure they are not linked Carl - where do you get your evidence for this?

    Cheers,

    George
     
  11. Because they both used to use the same fake accreditor, whose name escapes me now (this was a couple of years ago). The accreditor was a one-man operation, best I could tell, also out of Ireland.... But possibly there is no direct connection?

    Also, when Azad first appeared on St. Regis' web site as a professor, they mentioned his association with Canterbury University, but quickly changed that reference (within a couple of days)....

    Maybe someone with a "wayback machine" can identify the accreditor (common to Irish International University and Canterbury, and also Dr. Azad's past lives....)? I'm not technical enough to do that - even though I function as a CIO in higher education.... LOL
     
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  12. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    What's important is that they're a degree mill and should be avoided.
     
  13. mineralhh

    mineralhh New Member

    As far as I know, Canterbury University degrees can be purchased for $135 by instantdegrees.com
    At least this is the way how some "academics" I am aware of received theirs.
     
  14. Malcolm Jenner

    Malcolm Jenner New Member

    Or better still the University of Kent at Canterbury.

    When this university was established in 1963 or thereabouts it was prevented from using the name "Canterbury University" to avoid it being confused with the perfectly legitimate Canterbury University in New Zealand.

    Malcolm S Jenner
     
  15. agilham

    agilham New Member

    Better still, just the University of Kent. I think they decided to quietly drop the Canterbury designation a couple of years ago when the Medway Campus opened.

    Of course, old fogies like me still say UKC, but I'm sure we can eventually be retrained!

    Angela
     
  16. George Brown

    George Brown Active Member

    OK..You are probably referring to the United Congress of Colleges (UCC) which claimed to be based in Ireland and the UK. I am pretty sure IIU did not claim accreditation from it, but if it did, the plot thickens. Indeed, if SRU is involved, then this is news...

    Cheers,

    George.
     
  17. sdanyluk

    sdanyluk New Member

    Thank you all for all your help. You are correct, it is definitely fake. I just got an email back from a member of the Higher Education Governance in the Department for Education and Skills in the United Kingdom. He confirmed that this is not a recognized university and also indicated that they are aware of this organization and have reported them to Trading Standards for breach of the Education Reform Act. Anyway, thought I would let you know. Thanks!

    Stephanie
     
  18. George Brown

    George Brown Active Member

    Interesting - I thought they were rather quite nimble in their efforts to skirt the 1988 Education Reform Act. Looks like it is all coming undone.

    Cheers,

    George
     
  19. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    The big question in my mind is whether or not the UK authorities will really do anything about it. There've been many degree mills that have continued using college or university in their name and the authorities have apparently never done anything about it.
     
  20. George Brown

    George Brown Active Member

    You are, of course, quite correct Bill. Newspaper articles, complaints etc make a little ripple. However, these Trading Standards departments are just like the MOEs around the world and other enforcement agencies - understaffed, under budget and scared of a legal challenge turning into a political bunfight.

    All the legislation in the world will never stop these sorts of entities - it is only through consumer awareness (via the voluntary efforts of people like contributors to this board) that eventually drains their revenue sources. And, of course, this all gets indexed in Google, which is the bonus!

    Cheers,

    George
     

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