"Canterbury University" of Hyde, Cheshire, England.

We try not to provide advertising for the mills so I've messed up the links that Sean so generously provided.

Sean - if you're a one trick pony then you should take that small act elsewhere. if you are a legitimate member then you can continue to post. please don't link to mills.

 

Stanislav, yes i am refering to the Ukraine's institution.

 

That doesn't really address the points that Ian made.

There is no 'Canterbury University' included on the British government's list of recognized UK degree granting institutions.

http://www.dcsf.gov.uk/recognisedukdegrees/index.cfm?fuseaction=institutes.list&InstituteCategoryID=1

The Quality Assurance Agency for Higher Education doesn't appear to have ever reviewed it.

http://www.qaa.ac.uk/reviews/reports/instIndex.asp

Here's a brief description of how real British higher-education institutions obtain their degree-granting powers.

http://www.qaa.ac.uk/reviews/dap/briefGuideDAP.asp

I think that it's safe to say that 'Canterbury University' does not possess a British royal charter or an act of parliament. Reportedly it operates on the basis of an off-shore business license from the Seychelles, a small Indian Ocean island republic.

See the official 'bogus degrees warning'

http://www.dcsf.gov.uk/recognisedukdegrees/index.cfm?fuseaction=content.view&CategoryID=7

While it's apparently legal for purportedly foreign universities to offer degree-programs inside the UK with little or no restriction (or seemingly any official interest in whether they are real universities at all), it's an offense for them to suggest that they are British institutions or that they are awarding British degrees. 'Canterbury University' seems to be violating that one big-time. But luckily for them, there doesn't seem to be any real enforcement.

 

Interesting side-note re Seychelles (if it's true, that is ... from Wikipedia, unsourced):
The current administration has advanced plans to open a University on the islands in an attempt to slow down the brain drain that has occurred in the past. Initiated in conjunction with the University of London, the Seychelles are launching education programs which will include teaching and lead to the award of the recognized qualifications from the University of London.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seychelles

Of course, this has nothing to do with "Canterbury University".

 

The International University of Business and Law is not among the 72 Ukrainian universities listed and described in Europa World of Learning 2010.

Tools for further exploration (but not by me):

Ukraine accreditation:
ENIC/NARIC, Dept. for Licensing and Accreditation, Ministry of Education and Science, www.mon.gov.ua, email [email protected], Director: Vasyl Chinkaruk.

Ministry of Education and Science: www.mon.gov.ua, [email protected]. Minister: Ivan Vakarchuk.

Association of Non-State-Owned Educational Institutions of Ukraine. [email protected], www.ambernet.kiev.ua/~/aeiunfp/index_e/htm/
(68 members, not listed)

 

How is NZ swallowing the Australian win over India? I won't near the word rooting. It suffices to say that if in Australia/New Zealand or talking to Australians/New Zealanders, best not to say,"I am rooting for this team." The way things are with political correctness/sponsorship etc, the team may take legal action!

 

This is what IUBL is listed in Latin in the Unesco =http://www.unesco.org/iau/onlinedatabases/list_data/u-nw.html#Ukraine and check under Privatnij Vishij Navčalnij Zaklad Mižnarodnij Universitet Biznesu i Prava
Perhaps in Europa World of Learning 2010 it may listed under above latin name?

Its ukraine accreditation is listed on: www.mon.gov.ua/laws/MON_350.doc. its all in Ukrainian.

Stanislav, perhaps you can interpret it.
thanks
Migara

 

It is some Ministry directive bestowing some weird status "research institution supported by the state" on couple dozed institutions. Privatnij Vishij Navčalnij Zaklad Mižnarodnij Universitet Biznesu i Prava is listed among other "institutions of higher learning that have III-IV level of accreditation", i.e. accredited schools.

Also, here it is listed with other licensed schools: http://www.mon.gov.ua/nz/Licenzii/HTML/i_hers.html#_Toc199143598

Getting a license is like having accreditation candidacy, but accredited schools keep their license (hence, on a page for state schools, you have all the numerous universities in Kherson region, definitely accredited). Small print on the page mention "protocol N26 (accreditation)", so my guess is that this outfit is accredited.

Still - what's their unique value proposition? "International University of Busines and Law" in Kherson sounds near millish to my ear. Actually, any law school in Ukraine is not so hot, given the sorry state of the justice system. But private one in Kherson? Pffft.

 

LOL: Wisconsin International "University" is still licensed in Ukraine! Apparently even has degree-granting power (in Management).

 

Hopefully they've recovered by now, since this post is almost 7 years old!

 

New Zealanders never get over an Australian victory, but point taken.

 

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Why don't you post this reply?

Why would Oxford University in the UK accept me if my credentials were substandard?

Maybe we should rather look into the rather compromised, lower standard of US education… Ever heard of “college” credits for previous work experience? RPL? Most if not all American universities incorporate this practice. How fair and on par with UK government-accredited university standards is that when it comes to the benchmark of education? This is, of course an American concept. I would love to hear your comment.

 

Maybe we should rather look into the rather compromised, lower standard of US education…

I guess this" lower standard" is why other countries send their top students to study in the USA (not to mention the USA wins more Nobel prize than all other counties combined).


Ever heard of “college” credits for previous work experience?

Colleges do not award credit for "previous work experience".
But college do sometimes award credit for prior learning or experiential learning. The various US accreditation bodies have strict rules on the provision of academic credit for experiential learning. See for example page 10 of this document:
http://www.wascsenior.org/findit/files/forms/090330.Policy_Manual.pdf


RPL?

???????


Most if not all American universities incorporate this practice.

So do other countries. My daughter received one year credit for prior learning at a UK university. The USA does not award doctorates by portfolio (work experience???) unlike the UK and Japan (however I wish they did).


How fair and on par with UK government-accredited university standards is that when it comes to the benchmark of education?

I've seen no rejections of US degrees in the UK by either industry, government or academia.


This is, of course an American concept. I would love to hear your comment.

A major difference between US and UK degrees is the amount of general education required. Credit for experiential learning tend to be in the general education portion of the degree and not the major.

 

Which Oxford program 'accepted' you? Accepted you as being what, exactly? Frankly, I find it incredible that any Oxford program that requires a particular degree for admission would recognize what appears to be a degree-mill degree.

It's called credit-by-examination. It's a routine practice in British universities. Many British 'modules' are assessed largely or entirely by end-of-term examination. Here in the States, most universities allow students to receive some (typically limited) amount of credit by special arrangement for exams even if they haven't attended the lectures or participated in classroom exercises. Some students already possess considerable knowledge acquired by independent study or through work experience. That's essentially how the University of London external programme is organized; it's examination-based and in some majors it doesn't even offer any instruction.

But that's an irrelevant red-herring, isn't it? Whatever you feel like saying about American higher-education won't change "Canterbury University" in Cheshire's complete lack of credibility and turn it into something that it's not. It isn't what you called "a UK government-accredited university".

 

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Please excuse me if I re-up this topic but I have a question for you (not regarding me, I'm regularly graduated in Italy as a Lawyer).
Regardless CU is obviously a scam if we talk about teaching and education and their degrees are not of any professional use, I want to ask: are those degrees legally released ???
I mean, if I BUY a degree from CU, no employer will hire me on that basis if he knew from which University it comes, but can I refer to myself as a Doctor ???
Thank you.

 

You can do that now, without paying for a fake degree. The potential ramifications are the same.

 

No, Daniel. I can't personally forbid it, but I don't think you should. :smile: I suggest you stay with the practice of law. Why?

The Higher Education Act of 1988 makes it illegal for any school not "on the list" to award a British degree. For awarding one, somebody could go to jail - or gaol as old-style Brits (like me) sometimes spell it. :smile: There are still some degree-mills in the U.K. which have captive offshore "schools" to get around this. You pay the British outfit and your degree from the foreign school is printed up and mailed.

The list of authorized degree-granting British schools is here: https://www.gov.uk/recognised-uk-degrees

if the degree mill is not British - well, its "degrees" MAY be legally issued, who knows? But that doesn't make it legal to use where you live. Legal in Italy? I have no idea. As a lawyer, you probably know. As a layman, no kind of fraud or misrepresentation sounds like a good idea to me. It usually brings trouble.

J

 

Thank you Rich, but I didn't want an ethical answer.
I wanted a LEGAL answer.
Regardless what we all think about CU, if that University has a legal authority to issue degrees, those degrees are legal and so the titles they confer.
I asked about that because I read something on the web saying CU and affiliates operate legally.
So I just wanted to know it from a legal point of view, not from a personal one (although coming from an experienced user).

 

It was a figured question guy

Yes, I know how it works.

Of course.
Well, in Italy you can refer to yourself as a Doctor if you hold a degree (conferring the title of Doctor) from another country.
There is a difference between using the degree for professional porpouses (which here in Italy requires a very long procedure to be recognized, and MIUR, the official body for education in Italy will never recognize a fake diploma from CU) and using only the academic title, isn't it ??
I asked for because for work reasons I met a guy who held a degree from CU and claimed it was perfectly legal for him to refer himself as a Doctor (although he finished only the High School).
Surfing on the web I found Wikipedia who says CU operate legally, and an article about its legal operations.
WENR, Oct. 2005: Fighting Credential Fraud - WENR
Is just this article that lead me to some doubts.
Obviously, as I said before, in Italy a CU degree will never be recognized or could be used for professional porpouses.