California Coast University or Pacific Western University(California)

Some others

Some others:

Iowa State
Clemson
Univeristy of Maryland - University Campus
Kansas State

and

Norter Dame

 

And to answer your question, I don't really know. You're dealing with relative degrees (no pun intended) of UN-usefulness. Kind of like asking, "Which is better.. being poked with a sharp stick or being hit with a rock?"

Good luck, whichever way you go.

 

One other point about Ohio University exam- the cost is $185 and COSC accepts them as 3 credit class. If you need 60 credits it would cost $3700 to get the 60 credits you need and about $1000 for COSC fees compared to the $3750 from CCU.

And HR PRO, the exam/quiz are not 20 questions each. They are 25 or 50 depending if it is an accelerated class or not. Total questions for classes are either 100 or 200. If you are going to bash a school at least have your facts right.

 

Brandon: "The only place I've seen a negative connotation with one of their degrees is with the DL fanatics here."

And where have you looked? I no longer have easy access to what used to be "my" files* but I vividly recall a fairly long article in the New York Times, and a two-part page-one series in the Long Beach, California newspaper, neither one with anything kind to say.

Incidentally, back in those wacky nostalgic 70's, CCU was claiming to be fully accredited.

John Bear, who freely acknowledges that for
that tiny fraction of people who might
benefit from an unaccredited degree,
CCU is a better choice than most.
_____________
* I sold my copyrights 4 years ago, along with
my school files. The publisher that owns them
hires my daughter and me to write the books.

 

Those are all expensive though and would likely cost me more than 5,000.

I'm not looking for a hired position in government. I'm looking to run for office in which case i'll leave it up to the people to decide if i'm adequately prepared, and they are free to vote for the other candidate if it suits them.

 

I was recruiting a guy as a IT Manager, he was sharp and the company wanted him bad, so I make the magic and the company was going to pay 90K + 25% Bonus.

I was asked to do the ref. checks, at the front end I did not have his resume only a name, then I got the resume he had listed two degrees

1. AS in Computer Science from a California Comminity College

2. BS in Business from California Coast


I first question his AS degree "computer Science in 1973 ???" the school had no record, the BS was not (RA), so I called my customer, a VP-CFO, he said so, just hire him - His peers, the President of the Company, and the EVP of Legal said - "Pass on him
"
It was a large home builder in California, I just lost $33,750 by doing the right thing.......

 

Any enemy of the New York Times is a friend of mine. They never had many kind words about Nixon either, so this doesn't bother me all that much.

I prefer this type of correspondence education and i'll just let the chips fall where they may.

 

Brandon please explain lesser RA DL school

"... interesting to know how difficult the work is at some of the lesser RA DL schools compared to cal coast."

What do you mean by a lesser RA DL school ?

 

I just meant a school that was accredited, but not prestigous. Like how would a distance learning program from a school like COSC or Capella compare academically with a NA state approved school? (as opposed to how would UCLA compare with a NA state approved school)

 

So what is better...a prestigous CA state approved school or a non-prestigous RA school. I would put the smart money on the RA school.

 

This is big news, does it mean it's approved, I don't know much about CCU, I did check into them in the eary 90's and do recall the 20 questions/4 test format.

with this big change CCU should go after regional (RA)......

 

I don't see *much* of a difference personally but the RA obviously has advantages. Unless your talking about one of those state approved "cult" schools like University of Santa Monica, I would prefer the prestigous state approved school over the non prestigous RA school for various reasons i have outlined in this thread.

 

According to the survey Bear conducted--and I analyzed--your proposed options hardly constitute "middle ground." According to more than 300 admissions officials, there is no distinguishable difference between degrees from unaccredited schools in state with some standards and those in states with none. Oh, and it is a far cry from accredited (or foreign equvalent) options.

Yes, I know, you're talking about acceptance in the workplace. Well, that hasn't been established, yet. But there are so many situations where such a degree simply will not do. You might be convinced such a degree will meet your needs. Fine. So do it. But don't put that upon anyone else; for most of the rest of the world this just isn't the case.

As for nostalgia, hey, I was in this field during the late 1970's. I counseled thousands of working professionals regarding continuing education, while doing an accerdited distance degree of my own. There was a time when these programs were some of the only options available. No one knew which would go on to be acceptable and which were not. But those days are long gone. The accreditors have been much more progressive regarding distance and other nontraditional programs. There is no excuse anymore.

Middle ground? Hardly. I'm afraid your data point is much nearer the diploma mill extreme. It's your money, life, career, etc. But when you come around touting such a choice, expect others to disagree.

(If you ran for office with a CCU degree in your resume, you'd get eaten up the first time someone inquired about the nature of it. You could argue about CCU's legitimacy all you wanted, no one would care.)

 

illegit or illuded?

My hunch is were one or the other true (and possibly neither is) then it is the latter. I empathize with Brandon because of my recent involvement with an unaccredited doc program.

As I was unaware of any possibility, then, of the opportunuty of doing DL RA/GAAP doc work, I had convinced myself that my course was true. After all, didn't Dr So and So- that very successful cleric-have his PhD from my school? So if his PhD made him successful why then didn"t that indicate the efficacy of the degree from that school? Besides, I was doing respectable work there. So why would the RA be better? Mind set and rationalization it was and deceitful "demons" too!

But, good Brandon: these folks here are not fanatics! They have no commission to make by changing your mind! They are simply saying to you that accredited DL BAs abound and are reasonable and most of all which would anyone choose not accredited or accredited given the far greater utility of the latter?

I came on this forum just like you 3-4 months ago....DEFENDING! But neither was Bill a shill, just illuded.

 

Wrong. As i said this is easy enough to counter in modern politics and would likely work to my advantage.

To the Usenet wackos sure, but i don't live my life according to the usenet wackos.

 

It doesn't make much difference to me really. I see the cal coast degree as more valuable as a cost vs. benefit scenario over the cheap RA alternatives which are far out of my price range anyway.

 

Then, good "luck", sincerely, to you.

 

Shees from a writer and a doctorate holder, too. Where is our resident critic whrn you need him or her.

 

Ah, arguing the alternative. "It matters. It doesn't matter." How can anyone keep up? When people point out that a CCU degree would be a magnet for criticism of a political candidate, you first say that's incorrect, then you say it doesn't matter. With that kind of logic, you can rationalize purchasing a diploma from a diploma mill.

 

Apparently you haven't been reading the responses, so I'll say it again. In many cases, an RA degree program is less expensive than an unaccredited program, so your rationalization of saving money just doesn't make any sense. It makes even less sense to go for an unaccredited Bachelor's degree when there are so many good, cheap RA alternatives.

It appears that you already made your mind up before you even came here, as you're defending your decision more than soliciting advice. That's fine, but just be prepared for a lifetime of explaining why you graduated from an unaccredited school. Even if there was a cost savings (which there isn't), it wouldn't be worth it, IMO.


Bruce