California Coast University Accreditation?

Discussion in 'Accreditation Discussions (RA, DETC, state approva' started by Chsheaf, Aug 25, 2002.

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  1. John Bear

    John Bear Senior Member

    My recollection is that California law says that state-approved schools, like CCU, can only give up to 25% of the credit for a degree based on life experience learning.

    If so, that would, of course, mean that Excelsior and Thomas Edison State and Charter Oak could not become California-approved schools. (Note: they don't need to, since they have regional accreditation.)
     
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  2. Broderick

    Broderick New Member

    Re: Re: A Funny Thing!!

    One note of importance. Once you have filled out and submitted the paperwork for the experiential credit at CCU (and that is only for the experience they deem worthy), it is evaluated and often it is not given. You are not guaranteed the credit. If it is not given, the school will assign an accelerated study guide or a regular study guide, in those areas. Myself, I got only 9 credits this way.

    Veritas,

    Michael
     
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  3. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    Re: Re: A Funny Thing!!

    The last time I really looked, CCU charged a flat rate for each degree program. Thus, awarding life experience credit would have no bearing on revenues. In fact, it may actually enhance them, motivating potential customers to enroll.

    (CCU's website makes no mention of tuition, but a catalog I received last year states flat-rate tuition fees.)
     
  4. Chsheaf

    Chsheaf New Member

    Life Credit

    Seems to me that if a business (CCU) provides a substantial credit for life experience than the less work for profit the business would do. Why wouldn't thy attempt to give me all the credit they can so that their job would be simple for the money. I.E., one class and a thesis and you're go to go graduate!

    CCU makes it more difficult even more so than some RA schools. Why don't they just seek accreditation. Seems to me that the money is at the BA/BS level.

    Am I looking at this wrong. Be gentle I am new to this and attempting to learn as much as I can.
    Thanks
     
  5. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    Re: Life Credit

    Because that would mean operating a degree mill, which is illegal in most places, including California.

    In section 94900 of the Private Postsecondary and Vocational Education Reform Act, it says:

    If the institution offers credit for prior experiential learning it may do so only after an evaluation by qualified faculty and only in disciplines within the institution's curricular offerings that are appropriate to the degree to be pursued. The council shall develop specific standards regarding the criteria for awarding credit for prior experiential learning at the graduate level, including the maximum number of hours for which credit may be awarded.

    It is not clear what the council decided, but Bear noted above that he thought the maximum was 25% of the degree.
     
  6. RJT

    RJT New Member

    True

    This is true. I am now attending a CA Approved University for my Masters. The school will evaluate and then award credit, based on ACE and CPE credits that were accrued (I must develop a portofolio in presenting to the school). I still must complete 8 level 400 (graduate) courses in Business/HR, and complete a Qualifiying Project, develop and submit a research proposal, and then a Thesis. This is no cake walk. I feel that CA approved schools have eduactionally sound requirements, and therefore are on par with RA schools (and a whole lot cheaper).

    Bill Huffman must have missed me :D
     
  7. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    Re: True

    You go to a university to earn a degree. You might also go to learn and/or do something in your field. (But that can be done under many circumstances outside the auspices of a degree program.) Whether or not California-Approved schools have "eduacationally (sic) sound requirements" is certainly open to debate. But the utility of the credential earned is not. It is inferior.

    There is nothing to indicate that California-Approved schools are "on par" with regionally accredited schools, as a whole. There are many indications that they--again, as a whole--are not. And there is no doubt that the credentials earned are inferior. Read this: There are no situations where a California-Approved degree will suffice where an accredited degree will not. None. But the reverse is very often true. Par? Try double bogey. And with that, you missed the cut.
     
  8. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    Re: True

    Sorry, I guess I should also mention that one example of why CCU couldn't be accredited is that they apparently accepted a Bachelors degree from a degree mill graduate in the person of one Roberta Thompson. ;)
     

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