Cal Coast

I don't know for sure, but I suspect that the number one reason for people being banned at degreeinfo is being rude to Rich. I could be wrong. Only Chip and Bruce would know for sure,

 

Rich Douglas quote:

"Inconsistencies? The only things you know are the things I've said. I've been very open about my involvements with various institutions and why. If you don't like it, fine. But "inconsistencies" is just bull."


Levicoff?


Enough said. Die thread, die.

 

And everyone else, really. Can you offer even one example?

Dennis doesn't quit, but I will. While it is a simple thing to disagree with both candor and civility--Bill Dayson and Gus Sainz are just two who've disagreed with me vociferously in the past--there is a particular group of folks who behave badly. (They stay for awhile, tout their degree mills or other tawdry affairs, then usually go silent.) Getting dragged into their games is uncomfortable; dragging one's self out is necessary. Enough. (Until the next inane on topic comment, surely.)

 

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Dennis

I've always liked your persona here. But that opinion is , I think, stupid.

What I am reflecting on in connection with your situation is people like Zodhiates and Olford who got a doc from Luther Rice before it was accredited. Yet, my impression is that no one makes a distinction .

However, the difference between these and me or you is that these are much published or great contributors to the field. Their products establish their place.

But even that would not completely save them if they assumed to take on formidable opponents as does James White. Then their unaccredited doc may come back and bite them in the...well, you know

 

Rich is correct.

"Q. If an institution offers a Doctoral-level degree program, may it apply for accreditation?

A. No. All of the institution's programs and degrees must qualify to apply. At the present time, the Commission's recognition by the U.S. Department of Education and the Council for Higher Education Accreditation extends through the First-Professional degree level only."

-DETC FAQ

http://www.detc.org/frequentlyQust.html#stu

 

The way I see it is if DETC awards accreditation to CCU in the next year or two, and then Dennis finishes his degree afterwards then he received a degree from an accredited institution. It may be splitting a hair, but it is also good timing.

 

However, the DETC does not accredit doctorates outside of first professional degrees. Hence, his DBA would not be accredited.

 

Again this is incorrect and explaining it this way is an out and out lie.

 

I think it is a wonderful thing that CCU is seeking DETC accreditation. However, claiming the DBA as accredited could raise problems. If someone went out to check the web site they would note that the DBA is no longer offered at CCU. A cursory search by someone who doesn't know the history of CCU may raise the question and concern of a degree being claimed by a school that does not offer the doctorate degree. If a follow-up is done with CCU then CCU would need to explain why it is no longer offering the DBA and I would bet the DETC issue would be at the top of the explanation.

John

 

Quite true!

http://www.calcoast.edu/programs.html

"DEGREE PROGRAMS

Click any Degree Program for more information.

School of Administration and Management

Degree Major

B.S. - Bachelor of Science Business Administration
B.S. - Bachelor of Science Management
M.B.A. - Master of Business Administration Business Administration

School of Behavioral Science

Degree Major

B.S. - Bachelor of Science Psychology
M.S. - Master of Science Psychology

School of Education

Degree Major

M.Ed. - Master of Education Education"

 

Bill

Years hence. We walk into a room of souls not educated at degreeinfo.

I proudly exclaim that I am Dr. Ruhl with a DBA from California Coast University.

Then Dr. Grover is introduced with a ThD from the University of Zululand.

I think you may have more questions to answer than me. Trust me - a lot more.

 

I believe Rich and Dennis are both partially correct. Dennis won’t have an accredited doctorate. Rich does not have an accredited doctorate. DETC does not accredit degrees. The same is true of the regionals. But assuming his degree is awarded after Cal Coast becomes accredited, Dennis’ degree will be from an accredited institution.

You look at the status of the institution at the time the degree was awarded. If the Union Institute would lose accreditation at some time in the future, Rich would still have a degree from an accredited institution.

One might argue that the result in this case is misleading but I believe the entire accreditation process in the United States can be misleading. So, at the appropriate time, we should all salute Dr. Ruhl and more on.

 

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Yes, but I have the answers.

 

Then we're both prepared

 

It is amazing at the various types of responses --- on topic, off topic, flaming, baiting, whatever else, it's all there --- that CCU tends to draw whenever they come up as a topic for discussion.

 

Dr. Grover could easily and rightfully claim that his doctorate is accredited because it is accredited.

I do not believe that you could do the same Dennis.

 

I know all that stuff. I saw a whiter than white person in a newspaper who had a degree from India. My first reaction - bogus. Checked it out and the school was for real.

My comment was on people's possible reaction.

 

I know how I would react if you stated: "I am Dr. Ruhl with a DBA from California Coast University."

I would ask you how you could have a DBA from a school that does not offer doctorates?

 

What is incorrect? Dennis puts the degree on a resume.

Do you put your degree on a resume, and write accredited beside it?

If someone checks CCU out, and finds out that they do not offer a doctorate degree any longer then they can ask. At this point Dennis can say I was in the doctorate program before CCU discontinued the program. If they contact CCU then CCU can explain that to them. I do not see the big deal. If Dennis puts DETC accredited degree on his resume then that would be a lie.

If that causes people to look at Dennis, and say thank you great RA god that I am not like Dennis, then my suggestion to Dennis would be to beat his breast and ask the RA god to have mercy on him.