Black history is not taught well

Kamala's father is Jamaican. Any slave ancestors he has would've been enslaved in Jamaica, not the United States. That means he is not ADOS. He is not one of us and that means that Kamala is not one of us. She cosplays being ADOS, but she is not ADOS. That doesn't mean she isn't black, but being black doesn't automatically equal being ADOS.

 

Then she is AJDOS.
She is an American, = A
Jamaican descend = J
DOS.

Since I'm not from these communities, how important this to the voters in our day?
Being "one of us" ADOS, what weight it has on the elections' day?
What effect the candidate who is ADOS will have on AM community and race relations in the US in general?
And Education wise, in schools as well?

 

Oh, white racists absolutely know the difference and they often have a different attitude towards non ADOS. Colin Powell is a good example. I heard more than once that his career success proved that "Blacks could do better for themselves if only they would work harder."

The irony is that whites allow non ADOS more opportunities and support. Our discrimination is targeted and that's a fundamental problem. We don't see it, though.

 

Your experience may be different from mine. I'm repeating what was frequently said in my presence.

 

No one would have known that Colin Powell was not ADOS or FBA if it wasn't public information. He looked like any other light-skinned Black person in the U.S., he did not have a non-American accent, he was born in New York, and he had an English name.

The preference for Black people of non-American origins comes when it's obvious that the person is an immigrant. Based on sociological studies, the preference for Caribbean immigrants wore off once many of them assimilated, and their stats looked no different from those of African Americans. There is still a preference for hiring African immigrants, but they're paid less than other groups of immigrants in white collar jobs. Africans are hired to be used and abused.

 

ADOS means a descendant of slaves who were enslaved in the U.S. There's an online, right-leaning, xenophobic cult that was started by a former pimp named Tariq Nasheed. They like to use the term FBA (foundational Black American) to refer to descendants of freemen and slaves who were in the U.S. prior to 1865. They apply eugenics and weird race science to try to tell the different groups of the African diaspora apart and assert that other Black groups are jealous of Black Americans' phenotype.

They absolutely hate the term "African American." They also do not refer to other Black groups as "Black." To them, "Black" is an ethnicity that is exclusive to FBAs. They invented a slur for Black immigrants: tether. It means that Black immigrants are tethering to Black Americans and sucking up all of our resources. They are some of the dumbest, least educated, and most illiterate people you'll ever come across. Every time a Black person is in the news for doing something horrible, they claim the person is not FBA. Ironically, Tariq has a biracial wife, and he told Black men to get a biracial wife with a White mother, but they claim to be pro-Black. He also once told Black men to get a wife from Brazil. There's so much hypocrisy.

This FBA movement is slowly morphing into a self-hate movement where some Black Americans are denying that we were brought here from Africa. They claim we're Native American. Hating yourself so much to steal other people's identities is so embarrassing.

Forgot: If you’re somewhat of a public figure who criticizes the cult, Tariq will send an army of Twitter bots to harass you. He also calls Black women who date White men bed wenches, which was a term for Black female slaves who were routinely raped by their masters.

 

I never heard of ADOS until this thread. So, I researched it a little on Google. There are multiple meanings to ADOS. The most common might be "Autism Diagnostic Observation Schedule". Of course, this thread is referring to this one, "American Descendants of Slavery". Here's a pretty good description. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Descendants_of_Slavery. This is a very recent movement, just the past few years. The article says, "The movement is "tiny but outspoken";[3] the number of active supporters is believed to be in the thousands.[2]" The most interesting thing regarding it for this thread, I think, is the apparent fact that the right wing seems to love this. Hence INTJ's interest. The right is simmering about it because it's about reparations. Which many on the right seem to love to hate. Anyway, my opinion is that ADOS seems to be a silly distraction to this thread.

edit: I just noticed that sanantone responded with her own better wisdom on this topic.

 

On the other side, I haven't seen any signs of a weird cult. West Africans have turned a regular term for Black Americans into a slur: Akata. There's also this weird habit Caribbean Americans and Caribbean Canadians have of saying that Black Americans have no culture all while they participate in Black American culture. The online diaspora wars are so stupid, and I have no issues with Black immigrants offline.

 

They are a small, loud group that pretends it's in the majority. When Black Americans criticize them for their xenophobia, divisiveness, and sheer stupidity, they will falsely accuse the person of not being FBA. Honestly, I think some of these people are not FBA themselves because they speak poor English and lack basic knowledge of U.S. history. Tariq is known for employing bots, so I wouldn't put it past him to pay foreigners to sow discord online. He's a grifter who wants to sell books and movies.

As long as there is infighting amongst Africans and African descendants, we will continue to collectively be the poorest, least powerful, most exploited group on Earth.

 

There is this fundamental irony...black Americans ARE Americans and have a great deal in common with their white American neighbors. Black Americans are different from other national groups in many of the same ways white Americans are different.

This may yet be our salvation.

 

I think black American women have already been the salvation for our Democratic butts on more than one occasion over the past decade or two. I'm hoping that November will be another example!

 

What about the first lady, Michelle Obama?
Is she ADOS?

 

While we, naturally, have some cultural similarities (not by choice), it is not productive for the ADOS and FBA movement to align themselves with the alt-right. They're just using Black Americans to forward their short-term, anti-immigrant agenda. After that, they will focus on promoting white nationalism. Ann Coulter is "backing" the ADOS movement, but she's also a rabid racist. White Americans do not want to pay us reparations. White Americans have more sympathy for every other minority group than African Americans. It's why it's easier to pass anti-hate crime funding with Asians in the title than Black people in the title. The Japanese and Native Americans received race/ethnic-specific reparations. Black Americans have received nothing after hundreds of years of free labor. At least a growing number of African countries are offering the African diaspora an easier path to citizenship.

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2022/11/28/black-and-white-americans-are-far-apart-in-their-views-of-reparations-for-slavery/

 

Yes, she is, and Obama married her because it would help him in Illinois politics. He, originally, wanted to marry his White girlfriend.

 

No offense, but non-Hispanic White people are still the majority. They should be saving themselves. The Black women are superheroes rhetoric is harmful. Black women mule for everyone else, including Black men, with no reciprocity. Who is trying to save us?

 

True that Black women are a minority. However, they have an oversized role in the Democratic party.

Black Women Are the Past, Present, and Future of the Democratic Party
https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/black-women-democratic-party/

 

Then, we should be asking why the majority of White Americans have joined a cult. White Americans believe they are saving themselves, and no one else, by continuing to vote the way they do.

Black women overwhelmingly vote for the Democratic Party because the alternative is worse for us. Other than Minnesota and maybe California, what is the Democratic Party doing about the disproportionate amount of violence Black women face? Why has the Democratic Party only been proposing the study of reparations for decades? Why is it that Black legislators are the ones fighting for this stuff just to be told to wait?

 

Nailed it, Sanantone.