Anyone having idea/experience about Atlantic International University

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  1. passionate

    passionate New Member

    Hi,everyone,while surfing about Online universities,went through the site of Atlantic International University.When i contacted those ppl ,i got the following reply about accreditation.I m not fully aware of US accreditation system so i m not able to understand fully.Any one ving experience or knowledge regarding tht particular university ,plz comment .Also ll it be a wise idea to get a degree from such type of university.here s link for the university. www.aiu.edu

    Thts the reply from Atlantic international University

    AIU can provide graduates with International recognition of their Diplomas by the way of securing an Authentication from the U.S. Department of State in Washington D.C; which facilitates its authenticity and International Recognition. The authentication from the US Department of State is a process that we notarize, certify and ultimately bind a letter (permanently with a metal ring) to your graduation documents. The letter of Authentication will be signed by the US Secretary of State and confirms the authenticity of the documentation it is affixed to.

    plz read the info stated above n comment.thanks n regards.
     
  2. TEKMAN

    TEKMAN Semper Fi!

    hahhahah, U.S Department of State. Well, Atlantic International University is unaccredited institution in the United States. Their degree can be classified as Diploma Mill. They operate their business in Florida and Hawaii. Under the Oregon State's it is illegal for using the degree from Atlantic International University. URL: http://www.osac.state.or.us/oda/unaccredited.aspx
     
  3. jek2839

    jek2839 New Member




    Hi Passionate,

    They are unaccredited as TEKMAN stated.

    http://www.aiu.edu/Accreditation.html
     
  4. passionate

    passionate New Member

    hi,thanks very much both of u ve saved my 6000$ .By the way one more question,whts ur idea abt Andrew Jackson University.I m thinking of taking their MBA prgramme.Any comments ll be highly appreciated n thanks once again.
     
  5. TEKMAN

    TEKMAN Semper Fi!

    Honestly, if I have money I don't go to AJU; however, I do if I want to save money. Now, most people have different situation such as finance, academia goal, and etc. Once again, if I am in your situation....I would choose Andrew Jackson University. Especially their sponsored tuition is really attracted me.

    The only reason I don't want to go to AJU because I have MGI Bill (Military Veteran Reserve money for education); therefore, I have choices which school I attend. In fact, I save it for my PhD degree. :)

    I was born in Vietnam, and I know most of the countries in Asia that Money is not easy to earn. Therefore, saving as much as money as you can. Well, that is my two cents.
     
  6. tribilin80

    tribilin80 Member

    AJU is nationally accredited and recognized by the Dept of Education.

    the US is the only country that places such a high significance on accreditation.... depending on your personal and professional goals the difference between regional and national accreditation may not be of significance to you.

    Based on my experience and goals this is not a big issue to me, AJU is one of my options for my MBA.
     
  7. passionate

    passionate New Member

    thanks very much guys,yes money n age s the issue for me.If they would not have been i would ve rather gone for places such as Cornell,Chicago etc.But at the age of 49 n working already as a manager i just need a masters degree to enchance my career growth,otherwise if i had taken this decision 15 yrs before i would never had gone for university like AJU.
    Now one more question guys,if anybody could answer it,do degrees gained thru nationally accredited universities in US r recognized n accepted worldwide,n also can a degree from AJU can help me sometime, if i wouldlike to,get a job in Canada or even US.Any responses will be highly appreciated.
     
  8. John Bear

    John Bear Senior Member

    Passionate: "Do degrees gained thru nationally accredited universities in US r recognized n accepted worldwide,n also can a degree from AJU can help me sometime, if i wouldlike to,get a job in Canada or even US."

    Dear Passionate

    When I surveyed university registrars and admissions officers in 2000, asking them if they accepted various categories of degrees "always" "usually" "sometimes" "rarely" or "never" the nationally accredited degrees were accepted "always" or "usually" by about 40%, and "rarely" or "never" by another 40%.

    Some DETC-accredited schools have also had some or all their courses independently validated by the American Council on Education, and those courses have a higher acceptance rate. Andrew Jackson has not done that' I don't know why. (see detc.org)

    John Bear, co-author of (among many other things) Bears' Guide to
    the Best MBA Programs by Distance Learning
     
  9. passionate

    passionate New Member

    Dear John Bear,
    thanks very much for the valuable info.As u must ve through knowledge abt MBA programmes ,could u plz tell me tht how employers take Exec MBA programme.Will it be a wise idea to take an Exec MBA programme or its better to take MBA only.thanks once again.
     
  10. John Bear

    John Bear Senior Member

    "Executive MBA" vs. other kinds is just one of many factors to take into account, both when choosing an MBA program . . . and when job-seeking with one. Just over a year ago, the Chronicle of Higher Education (Aug. 2, 2007) ran an article headlined,
    Companies and Business Students Differ on What Skills M.B.A. Programs Should Teach It began:

    "A serious disconnect exists between what corporate recruiters want in their new M.B.A. hires and what business schools are teaching them, and students may be largely to blame, according to a report that will be released this week at a meeting of management scholars in Philadelphia. The report, by two assistant professors of management at DePaul University, concludes that recruiters want business schools to pay more attention to people-oriented skills like leadership and communication. Students, however, frequently complain that those "soft skills" won't get them jobs, and they're pressuring their business schools to focus instead on functional or technical content, the researchers say."

    Things are murky.

    Here is a list of factors to take into account (both for potential students and for HR people) when looking at an MBA. A lot can be written about each of these . . . and doing so is on my agenda for next year, when I revisit this out-of-print book.

    1. Specialized vs. General (Generic MBA; in health care; insurance, etc.)
    2. Theoretical vs. Practical (How much math, Algebra? Calculus? etc.)
    3. Cost
    4. World View (international course content or US-focused)
    5. Reputation
    6. Ranking in US News, other rankers
    7. Interactiveness with faculty, other students
    8. Lockstep or flexible time
    9. Exams: many, few, none
    10. Exams: proctored, open book; objective, subjective, etc.
    11. Writing: many papers, some, none.
    12. Thesis or major paper required
    13. Degree title (MBA, MA in Econ, MS in marketing, etc.)
    14. Time involved (minimum, maximum)
    15. Going on for a doctorate? Yes, no maybe
    16. 100% on line/distance or less
    17. Concession for prison, disabled, blind, A.D.D., other special needs
    18. Language of study; language of exams.
    19. Case study based (the Harvard model; all, some, none)
    20. Accreditation: regional, national, AACSB, state approval, etc.
    21. School in US or in other country.
    22. School also has on-campus MBA or other programs as well, or not.
    23. Executive MBA vs. other kinds
    24. Credit for prior academic work: much, some, none.
    25. Credit for career experience: much, some, none.
    26. Cohort groups working together: yes, no, optional.
     
  11. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator Staff Member

    I don't think you're going to find an better outline/breakdown anywhere. While Dr. Bear wrote this specifically in regard to MBA programs it could easily be adapted to the decision making process regarding enrollment in any degree program where multiple options exist.
     
  12. passionate

    passionate New Member

    Thanks Dr. John Bear

    Yes ,u r absolulety right,These suggeations by him r really very informative n highly valuable for me n I can t have better understanding of tht topic if he had nt explained me .I hope in future also I ll be able to have his professional n honest suggestions.Thanks once again Dr.Bear.
     
  13. Game Changer M.A.

    Game Changer M.A. New Member

    Atlantic International University

    I had a great time with learning at AIU, at first I was skeptical about the university after reading a few negative comments, but after learning more about accreditation and how most big private universities use accreditation as a sales strategy and that accreditation is easily obtainable I realized that AIU was a great opportunity for me to save thousands of dollars on my education.

    The experience was great and I was able to choose my own courses and books for each course. I was able to write investigative research assignments on practical and relevant issues. The only difference I found from an DOE accredited online university and privately accredited AIU is the cost, and deadline dates for study. AIU offers a way to learn at a self pace. Other universities kept me at strict deadline dates with no opportunity to make an assignment up if missed the submission date for an assignment, then I would either fail or have to pay for the course again. Most employers that I have came across never questioned my accreditation but only was concerned with my experience and knowledge. Ive had a number of job offers since graduating.

    People say its not accredited but it is by two accrediting agencies. U.S. Department of Education accrediting agencies are all corporations FOR PROFIT I found out, and are corporations that are invested in by universities they accredit, same with the student loan agencies that generated 986 billion dollars in student loans in 2013, they are mainly invested in by big colleges and universities which gives them less reason to lower tuition.

    I'm starting to realize that big universities use accreditation as a means to continue the price gouging of tuition. You can graduate from a school like Harvard but if your a complete idiot then you most likely will not get a job. Your ambition, knowledge, character, personality and integrity will get you the job NOT accreditation, unless for licensing purposes.

    I'd much had rather attended AIU for my Master degree that I only spent $8,000 for than a state university or a private university like Phoenix or Corinthians colleges which would run me $40k - $60,000 dollars and not guarantee me a job when I graduated but will guarantee me a huge amount of debt that I have to pay back.

    AIU has had many professional and even public and political figures attend. IF you look at universities like University of the People which is free tuition and you only pay for the exam after each course even if you pass or not, they are NOT accredited even by a private accrediting review body, nothing at all, and they get backed by universities like NYU and Microsoft and HP had donated to them knowing that they are not ACCREDITED. Is this a double standard or what?

    Does this prove that the word "accreditation" can possibly be over rated and used as a manipulating tool for "big" universities to deceive and to get more money out of non-educated working adults and professionals looking to continue their education and maintain employment and who know nothing about accreditation other than the hype about it ? yes you can not get your nursing degree from AIU but business and economics or any field that you have extensive knowledge in you can learn. It is said that if you go to a big university and you spend $40 thousand dollars, only $3,000- $8,000 of that money actually goes to lecturing or used for learning purposes. The rest of that $32,000-$37,000 dollar amount is pure profit for the university, smh people! Is it that people are so passive now-an-days that we let big universities "make their own price" for getting a degree from their university and help them fund it by investing in Sally May and other big student loan lenders?

    Please share your thoughts?

    What do you think about student loan lenders and having big stake holders by big universities and colleges? Is that a conflict of interest?

    Does accreditation mean that you learn something?

    Does accreditation mean that you get a job?

    Does accreditation dictate your tuition now?

    Should U.S. DOE accrediting review body corporations be private or should they turn to Government Agencies?

    "The endowments of Furman University, Harvard University, Mount Holyoke College, and University of Michigan all hold stakes in Sallie Mae through their investments in Highfields Capital Management, a hedge fund that manages more than $11 billion and is the second-biggest Sallie Mae shareholder. As of the end of last year, Highfields owned nearly 40 million shares of Sallie Mae, or 8.6 percent of the company’s common stock."

    Who’s Getting Rich off Student Loans? College Endowments by Daniel Luzer | College Guide | The Washington Monthly
     
  14. Legal Eagle

    Legal Eagle New Member

    AIU recently completed the accreditation process and Now has Official Accreditation

    AIU has been accredited by ASIC--->
    International Colleges Directory | ASIC-->International Colleges Directory | ASIC

    Which ASIC is listed in USA's Council for Higher Education Accreditation website as an Accrediting Body based out of the UK--->CHEA International Directory


    ASIC is a national accrediting Body. One of the 7 Accrediting Body's in the UK and they are authorized and approved by the British Governments Home Office-->https://www.gov.uk/government/world-...on-in-thailand
     
  15. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    Apparently, your talking points fit any thread that's ever mentioned your employer....
     
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  16. Bruce

    Bruce Moderator Staff Member

    Hahaha!!

    It amuses me when we get members who apparently have a rotating red light and siren in their home/office that activates every time a certain school is mentioned here. My favorite was the guy who appeared whenever UMUC was mentioned even in passing, to passionately point out that UMUC is not the same as UM-College Park.
     
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  17. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    One presumes this was not a shill for UMUC, but instead was a UMCP alum?
     
  18. Sosuba

    Sosuba New Member

    Hi all, I want to share some info about AIU. I earned two BAs at Kaplan University and two MAs at Purdue University (they bought Kaplan). It/they were great. Professors were experts in their field, work was challenging and innovative. Weekly discussions kept us on our creative and educational toes etc. My point is, I know what a good school is. I am now attending AIU for my Doctorate. Let me explain. I first found them online and the fees were affordable, so I looked into it. Found they weren't accredited and forgot them. However, when they received ASIC accreditation I reconsidered. I understand that ASIC will not count as an accredited school/for licensure in the US but I am permanently living outside of the US and my degree from AIU will meet all of my educational and career goals as it holds UK accreditation and legally awards degrees. So for my personal situation it is fine. If I were planning to live or work in the US again, I wouldn't waste my time or money.
    Now let's talk about the quality of AIU. Is it fake? No. Degree mill? No. I can say this after more than a year of attending. Is it a GOOD school? Not really. The course work is challenging enough and one will learn. The support system is wonderful. However, I don't have experienced/expert professors or the creative or intellectual challenges I had with Kaplan and Purdue. All in all its ok, certainly not worthless but even if they got US recognised accreditation, I wouldn't rate them so high. Again, for me and my unique situation, it works. It is self-paced (which I need), has plenty of academic resources and tutor/advisor support. I have been working in my field for years already so I'm familiar with the subject, theories, concepts etc. If I were an undergraduate, this school would not do for me.
    In closing, it is not fake. There is real course work and learning but if you want to live or work in the US....you need (fair or not) an accredited school. And if it's not accredited... It should be reputable and have an outstanding program that suits you.
     
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  19. Vonnegut

    Vonnegut Active Member

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  20. Neuhaus

    Neuhaus Well-Known Member

    I have no desire to argue with you but I am going to respond to just this piece so that the next time someone necromances this threat they will see very clearly.

    AIU does not have ANY accreditation recognized by ANY government body. Their UK "accreditation" (ASIC) is not institutional accreditation as it is understood in the U.S. The degrees are worthless within and without the United States.
     
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