ACCIS

Discussion in 'IT and Computer-Related Degrees' started by chessdan, Jul 23, 2001.

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  1. chessdan

    chessdan New Member

    Greetings,

    I have seen some semi-negative comments regarding the quality of ACCIS. I am a student there and thus far I think their program is good.

    I'd like to hear your opinions, good or bad, about ACCIS.

    Thanks,

    Dan
     
  2. cyberteri

    cyberteri member

    Hi,

    I am just now registering with ACCIS and I have researched a lot of online schools, I thought it looked like a good program. I am only interested that it at least had the Distance Education and Training Council accreditation. It is affordable and is hands on as well. Anyone studying there or has studied that has any feedback?

    Thanks,
     
  3. chessdan

    chessdan New Member

    Hi cyberteri,

    I am also a student at ACCIS. While I have seen a bit of disdain for ACCIS in this forum, I have found it to be quite good. The faculty there is of good quality. They all have previous experience as educators, etc. The students I have worked with all have had very high opinions of ACCIS.

    I think the issue that some have with ACCIS is the college's bout with WAUC. The WAUC was an unrecognized accrediting organization with poor standards. WAUC was associated with a number of diploma mills. ACCIS' association with WAUC gave it a black eye. Of course, this does not need to mean ACCIS was a diploma mill, but we are often judged by the company we keep.

    As you noted, ACCIS got DETC accreditation in Jan 2000. This was their first attempt and DETC Executive Secretary Michael Lambert stated only 1 in 10 institutions succeed on the first attempt and only 1 in 4 are ever accredited.

    Considering the DETC accreditation, genuine quality of the staff and courses (all standard college texts), I think ACCIS is a great deal.

    Dan

     
  4. cyberteri

    cyberteri member

    Thanks Dan!

    I have only heard very positive feedback from current students of ACCIS. I have been working with them for awhile now getting things set up and in the enrollment process now. I am really looking forward to the studies....they have been nothing but professional and very quick in responding to my emails or phone calls. I have only had to work with one admissions advisor and she has been great! I have an RA bachelor's but in Business and I work in the IT field, so I need more skills to take me further in my career. Understandable about their past "evils" of accreditation, but it does appear they are trying to turn things around and gain a better reputation.

    Thanks again for your imput!
     
  5. darioforte

    darioforte New Member

    The only questions i have are:
    1Does the DECT accreditation means that ACCIS is RA?
    2)why ACCIS is not listed in the Bear's guide?

    Thanks in advance


     
  6. bgossett

    bgossett New Member

    Absolutely not.
    The school's name was changed from AICS, The American Institute for Computer Sciences. The listing can be found on page 97 of the 14th edition.


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    Bill Gossett
     
  7. chessdan

    chessdan New Member

    As someone else stated, DETC accreditation does NOT mean RA. Most distance only schools do not have RA (some do). Personally, I am quite happy with ACCIS, but RA is an issue. Purely as a matter of my opinion, I think DETC has about 75% acceptance by the world at large, not too bad. RA is accepted in 99.9% of cases. RA is better. The DETC seems to be making slow, but sure progress.

    Either ACCIS or the older name AICS has been listed in the major college guides I have looked at.

    Good luck choosing your college.

    Dan
     
  8. Got a citation for that?

    DETC's directory of accredited institutions numbers 78; I've got more than 80 links for graduate programs alone. True, many of these are distance learning programs offered by largely traditional institutions that have a distance learning department or program. I know of only two schools that offer all of their programs entirely or primarily through distance learning that have U.S. regional accreditation -- Capella and Jones.



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    Kristin Evenson Hirst
    DistanceLearn.About.com
     
  9. chessdan

    chessdan New Member

    Hi Kirsten,

    It sounds as if you think my point was misleading. As you noted, there seem to be many RA schools that have distance programs. I think many of them have residency or other "special" requirements or limitations. I have visited about.com for college info many times. You, no doubt, are more knowledgable than me.

    All I was trying to say is that DETC accreditation carries reasonable weight, but is clearly inferior to RA in the real-world. I like the DETC accredited school I attend, but that's the extent of my opinion.

    Dan
     
  10. sanjay

    sanjay New Member

    i am also a strudent of ACCIS, pursuing MS(CS). i found the course very challenging. the quality of material very good.
    believe me i also checked capilla and i found their courses very easy.. any damn can do that MS. i dont go by RA at all..
    and guess what.. i inquired in india( am from india).
    i am happy with ACCIS
     
  11. Chip

    Chip Administrator

    By most accounts, ACCIS academic quality seems to be decent.

    One argument against ACCIS is their extremely sleazy past (using fraudulent accreditation to acquire students, for example). A school that knowingly defrauds students about the value of their degrees in order to get them to enroll is the lowest of the low in my opinion.

    Another argument is the fact that they are not regionally accredited. Only 47% or so of regionally accredited schools will even *consider* a DETC undergrad degree to grant admission to graduate programs. Employer acceptance is higher, but definitely not as high as RA.

    And ACCIS is not inexpensive. There are numerous other options available at similar or lower cost, that are regionally accredited and don't have the stigma associated with ACCIS (which, I suspect, changed its name in part to try to separate from its sleazy past.)

    If you're in the program and are happy, more power to you. But for someone just considering enrolling, I could see no reason on earth why one would choose ACCIS over an equivalently priced or lower cost RA program.
     
  12. sanjay

    sanjay New Member

    psychology

    also.. one reason for this school suiting me is that.. i am from india.. and i can pursue higher studies there with this degree.
    there we dont have This RA and DETC system. all universites there shoud be Govt Recognised . That means if i take this dgree and ask for admission in Phd in india.. i should definitely get it..
    here in US case is different.. mostly psychological rather than technical.. believe me.
     
  13. Tommy Fisher

    Tommy Fisher New Member

    question

    Dear Chip-

    I am seeking for a Master degree in Information System, Information Technology, or System/Technology related field. Money is my big factor. At ACCIS, it is $155 per credit unit ... what institution (usa or foreign) is cheaper than ACCIS? thank you!

    Dear Sanjay-

    You said you can pursue higher studies (ph.d) there (in India) with this degree (an ACCIS degree). So a Master degree from Clayton College of Natural Health (www.ccnh.edu) can get me into a ph.d program in India?? Clayton College is approved by the "State-government" and operate legally in that State.
     
  14. DaveHayden

    DaveHayden New Member

    "That means if i take this dgree and ask for admission in Phd in india.. i should definitely get it.. "

    Wow, so in India they will accept foreign degrees that are not accepted in the country they are from?! Can you get that in writing?
     
  15. sanjay

    sanjay New Member

    hi Dear!

    i am not saying any degree in US can get u admission in India.
    but yes , if the degree is recognised by Dept. of education is US , then what in india will do, they will just match ur courses that u have done with their courses and will ask u to take the test. and if you pass the test , u'll get the admission.
    remember in india all the institutions have to be recognised by govt. so they dont care about RA bla bla..
    and BTW how did u say that DETC courses are not accepted in US.. u can get federal job with this degree.. that means its very much recognised by govt. here..
    the only problem is that RA colleges dont accept this degree, thats their problem..
    so get set n go babe
     
  16. comp-sci-guy

    comp-sci-guy New Member

    Hello. I'm also student at ACCIS and let me tell you it is one very tough computer science program they offer. Simply put, IT'S HELL!! I'm using brainwaves I never knew I had. Believe me, it will challenge you. No doubt about it. I like their program a lot. Very good school indeed. Good staff, support, reasonable tuition etc. I have no complaints. But you know, I'm willing to bet that people who have put this school down have never looked at their course content or been a student. My advice to those people: Don't knock it until you've tried it. It may very well be the school you're looking for. If you are going to hold the past against them, you might as well do that to rest of the schools as well. I'm not defending any of their questionable practices that might have happened in the past, I'm simply stating that if these allergations are true, then the school appears to have gone on a very aggressive approach to turn things around and I feel their course content serves as an example of that. But you know, when you think about it, every school at some point in time has had a problem of some type and ACCIS is no exception. Just my opinion.
     
  17. DaveHayden

    DaveHayden New Member

    Hi comp-sci-guy

    Interesting. I wasn't aware of anything ACCIS had done to improve there image other than change their name. Did they fire the person resonsible for lying to their students? Has ownership changed from Mr. Clayton? If not we have to assume they are a less than honest school. In time, 10-20 years, with right actions on their part this image will change. Until then I wouldn't apply to any RA MS programs.
     

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