Academic dismissal questions

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  1. Mike Williams

    Mike Williams New Member

    First and foremost, I apologize if this is the wrong category. Still new here.

    I cannot get it appealed. I still want to go back and that is what I am going to devote myself to for at least another decade (only 22 in age). GPA is literally less than 1, but I just can’t bring myself to give up. So I have a few questions:

    1.) can I still go to a community college then transfer to a new 4-year institution I’ve never been at before? They don’t even know I exist.

    2.). If question 1 is yes, will it be worth it? I cannot afford to waste time on a school that accepts me if it isn’t going to get me anywhere. Especially if said school will make it all look worse on my records.

    3.) Speaking of records, will this stain on my record overwrite any or all progress I make in the future if I get back into a college?

    4.) Am I gonna be hated or mocked for looking to get back in?

    Finally, I will state again that for whatever reason I am unable to bring myself to give up. I’m not sure if this is a good or bad thing, but it is a real thing.
     
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  2. TeacherBelgium

    TeacherBelgium Active Member

    My undergrad degree had a GPA of 3.0 and in the US I was told by my local university college that would be seen as low.
    But isn't an online programme an option for you?
    Can't you write a motivational letter about why your GPA is that low? If you can justify it, there must be a way to get into college?
    I mean, there are American community colleges that admit people who don't even have a high school degree.
    Someone I follow on YouTube mentioned that she didn't have a high school degree, was admitted to a community college and that in the state of Florida graduation from a community college guarantees admission to a state university.
    Maybe worth to look into?
    Otherwise, look at University of the People. They seem to be relatively laid back with stuff like this.

    Best regards and good luck :)

    If there is something that I learnt, it is that when you have a dream that is big enough to fight for, there will eventually come an opportunity along.
     
  3. Mike Williams

    Mike Williams New Member

    >Can't you write a motivational letter about why your GPA is that low? If you can justify it, there must be a way to get into college?

    Nope. I admit I’ve made the mistake of not taking it seriously enough and now it’s all I can think about.
     
  4. TeacherBelgium

    TeacherBelgium Active Member

    University of the People is really laid back about things like that.
    You were young and you wanted to chill like most people your age.
    You can't forever be punished for a mistake that you made when you were under 18.
    The most important is having insight into your mistakes.
    Learning from them.
    You can't expect 18 year olds to make the most sound choices anyway.
    18 was the age at which I thought I would go for a few years to college and make 10k$ a month and be retired by the age of 35.
    Then reality hits you and you think: " What a naive person I was. ''

    I'm sure that if you apply hard enough that you will get accepted by one or another community college.
    Never take no for an answer from the first time, with these things.
    Sometimes asking again and again eventually gets someone to the point they give you a chance.
    Perseverance is one of the most beautiful qualities a person can have.
    Believe me, the times that I have been told no in the work force and at school, I couldn't count them on one hand. And still I managed to nag my way into realizing my goals sometimes.
    If they say no today, come back tomorrow, and the day after etc. Until they are so tired that you get a yes.
    That's my strategy most of the time.
     
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  5. Rachel83az

    Rachel83az Active Member

    Have you considered getting a degree using as many alternate credits as possible? I would not go with UoPeople but there are other options out there. Ones that may be much cheaper and more affordable than whatever school you were previously attending. I'm not 100% sure of the admission process to another institution after academic dismissal but it's worth a shot. As far as I can tell, academic dismissal only applies to the school you were dismissed from. Not any others.

    1. I think you can. But I'm not sure that'd be my first step. Go to Sophia.org, sign up, and get a bunch of credits that way.
    2. It's absolutely worth it! The only thing employers care about is if you have a degree or not. They don't care that you flunked out of the first year of school. You could even put a positive spin on it, if anyone asks "I had some personal issues that I overcame in order to get to where I am now."
    3. They may show up on your transcripts forever but, again, it does NOT matter once you have your degree in hand.
    4. No. I'm not sure why you'd think that.

    What degree are you wanting? The best schools for the acceptance of alternate credit are TESU, Excelsior, COSC, and UMPI. The degree options can be a bit limited but there are options for almost anyone.
     
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  6. Michigan68

    Michigan68 Active Member

    I was at Walden for 3 semesters trying to get my MBA. I was told that the classes were not cohort projects and that is exactly what they were. I failed two of the classes, and was academically dismissed from Walden,

    But my failure was at Walden . . . not my new school. My new school knows about my failed class from my transcript, and I discussed it with the Dept Chair during an interview process. . . but thats it.

    I have completed my MBA with a 3.6 and I am now 8 months away from completing my DBA, and no one has brought up the dismissal and I haven't thought about it until your post.

    What you went thru was a learning experience. Nothing more. Pick another school or three and apply.

    If you used Federal Student Loans, they might question the dismissal, but that is about it.
     
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  7. Garp

    Garp Active Member

    Completely recoverable from in a variety of ways (some options noted). Many people don't do well right out of high school but go back later and excel all the way to the doctorate level (again as noted). You are only 22.
     
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  8. AsianStew

    AsianStew Active Member

    Hey there, Mike a GPA is something to look at from an admissions perspective but it's not everything. You're still young, you've got time to make things better, affordably, easily, quickly and with the assistance of members from this or the sister board, you'll be well on your way to a better education. Here are my answers to your questions below:

    1) To get your GPA up, a community college or another university would be your second best bet to getting that to a higher level, I would recommend a third party online provider that partners with a college or university. So, any local affordable community college or online from another cheap-o state, online providers such as TEL Learning/ONU, and exams that provide grades such as UEXCEL.

    2) Yes it's well worth it, the reason is you will want to transfer back into the "failed university". This is the best way as you retake those courses to "erase" your previously failed scores as your GPA will go up significantly (think about it, no more Failing grades!)

    3) They show up on the transcript, if you do it again, the grade is replaced with the highest one. You don't really need to worry about this at all, unless you're going for a very competitive graduate program such as a Masters from a Top University or Ivy League college/university.

    4) I don't think anyone will mock you except yourself or your enemies/foes... other than that, most schools that are semi-competitive or non-competitive will take you as they know everyone doesn't start college with the same results, some have "life happens" or family issues, etc that may hinder their performance.

    This is what you need to do, the end goal is to finish that Associates and/or Bachelors, if you really want to get the GPA up, go back to the university and only redo those that have failed, forget the ones that are a B or C+/C, redo anything that you have failed. We're trying to get a better grade overall and bumping that B to an A will not do wonders.

    My recommendation and suggestion is to get a degree from a public/state college or university such as the ones mentioned earlier, COSC, Excelsior, TESU or CBE competency based education institutions such as Brandman (soon to be UMASS Global), UMPI, SNHU, WGU, etc... there are so many public/state colleges and universities that are in the "middle of the pack". I would recommend some for-profits such as Walden Tempo Learning if you're going for a Masters level later.
     
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  9. Mac Juli

    Mac Juli Well-Known Member

    Not by anyone who should play any role in your life. - BTW, this is a good test. Just sayin'.

    Oh, and welcome to DI!!
     
  10. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    If your next stop is a community college and you do well there, most schools will overlook a crappy GPA from a previous attempt at school, especially a first attempt when you were young.

    That's even more so nowadays, when the population of college-age students has declined right as a lot of them are opting to do other things. Colleges and universities are closing and merging all over the place because they can't find enough students. Get your act together, and you'll look like a prize to a lot of schools.
     
  11. Dustin

    Dustin Well-Known Member

    I recently learned about WGU Academy. It's a non-credit, less expensive option to wean you back into studying and college, as well as guaranteeing you admission into a WGU degree program. Depending on your eventual learning goals, going to WGU might be the right fit given its low price and competency framework.

    If you're not American, if you know you want to complete a Masters degree (not impossible with a WGU undergrad but sometimes eyebrows are raised), or if you really want to see that GPA to prove to yourself that you've overcome your previous one (versus WGU's competency framework assigning you a Pass when you get over 80% or 3.0), then I would definitely look into a community college.
     
  12. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    Elaborate?
     
  13. Dustin

    Dustin Well-Known Member

    I was thinking of programs with a GPA cutoff, since WGU doesn't provide that information but I just went to Google for examples and can't find any concrete ones, except this comment about law school admissions being more challenging: https://www.degreeforum.net/mybb/Thread-Questions-regarding-WGU-and-other-issues?pid=309503#pid309503

    So this might be a theoretical fear that isn't an issue in reality, especially after I found this list of self-reported grad schools admitting WGU students: https://www.wgu.edu/alumni/career-support/education-and-professional-paths.html
     
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  14. NMTTD

    NMTTD Member

    If I can weigh in here, may I ask if you used financial aid? If you paid out of pocket or had any other means of payment that wasn't financial aid, and if you didn't have any classes that you passed, why even mention it at all? Now, if you used financial aid, well then there's a record of it and you may have a little bit of explaining to do. But there's community colleges as well as online schools that won't make a big deal about it. My husband was dismissed from American Public University for failing literally all of his classes (he just wasn't taking it seriously). About a year later, h decided to go back to school and really work at it and he was accepted into Fort Hays State University and they didn't care that much. He was on academic probation for his first 12 credits and then he was fine and finished with his Associate in General Studies degree and had a 3.2 gpa and went on to get his BS in Information Systems with a concentration in Web Design from Baker College online. And his gpa there was 3.35. So it's definitely not the end of the world if you mess up. Just do your best to improve once you get that 2nd chance. Good luck!!!
     

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