A time bomb waiting to explode at Capella

Agreed, all that's left is the shouting. By shouting I mean the same old tired defences of why claiming/selling grossly inferior degrees should be accepted in this particular case.

 

Well, well...an anonymous poster defending Lacrosse.

Things that make you go hmmmm ,
Steven King

 

I am employed in the academia as an adjunct professor and I have a full time job. I am not ill-informed and I have been around the block for a while. If you want to send email to me, you can sent it to [email protected]. What is your point?

 

Corrctions:

If you want to send email to me, you can send it to [email protected]. What is your point?

 

That's a lot of rationalization. The very use of such a "degree" is fraudulent. In fact, these "degrees" are designed to be used openly as if they were real. I wouldn't expect her to hide it.

I didn't jump to any conclusion. The use of a Lacrosse "degree" is prima facie evidence; I don't need to deduce anything.

Rich Douglas

 

The following is the first profanity I've ever used on this board: BULLSHIT! (Sorry.)

This person doesn't "hold" a degree because Lacrosse isn't a university. No recognized university in the U.S. would accept a degree from that school, not even Capella (as they have noted themselves). We're not arguing over varying levels of quality; Lacrosse isn't any more a university than is the local 7-11 store.

You mention that no organization wouldn't know the nature of such a "school." More bullshit. There is no way Capella knowingly allowed her to list that fake piece of paper as a Ph.D. Some clerk put it there and no one checked. Oh, sure, if she'd presented it as a condition of hire it would've been rejected. But listing in her mini-bio was not subject to that kind of screening. Some clerk typed it there.

"That's not writing, that's just typing."

Truman Capote

 

WAUC accreditation is unrecognized, unreal, and only serves to fool people, as do its schools. The state of Louisiana has been a haven for bad schools for a long time; its recent laws requiring schools to get on an accreditation track seem to be having no effect.

Rich Douglas

 

Butchered syntax aside, I've taught at Webster University, San Diego State University, and Virginia International University (a new state-licensed school in Fairfax). I've done work for Greenwich University as well. (I did my Union internship with them after John Bear became its president.) I've also worked in human resources for two decades in both the public and private sectors. I've done doctoral work at the Union Institute (where I hope to graduate from someday). Finally, you can reach me at [email protected] . Enjoy.

Rich Douglas

 

Full-time vocation, family responsibilities,
plus a part-time teaching position (RA school) for 3 of those years---all while earning the BA, MA & D.Min (all RA). Currently working on a Ph.D. thesis at a non-US (GAAP) school.

Yes, its difficult, but possible.

No legitimate masters & doctorate can be earned in 16 months--unless of course its the 1 in a million genius who graduated from high school at age 9.

Russell

 

I applaud PamD for responding on this forum at all; very few people associated with schools do so.

But I can't let go uncommented on her assertion that a degree from National Louis would never be accepted by California State University Northridge. It is very hard for me to believe that a state university in California would not accept a degree from aregionally accredited university. Is this really what you meant to say?

As for accusing Ike of hiding behind a cloak of anonymity -- perhaps you were not aware that it is a "feature" of this forum that individual Emails are not available. They used to be, but the practice was abused by a few, I gather, and was changed. Ike has always used his full name, a practice I would like to see required.

John Bear
[email protected]

 

As a new poster, you probably don't have the benefit of knowing the regulars' backgrounds. A lot of us - most of us - have earned our degrees while working full time.

Some of us have even worked (2) jobs, raised a family, and still earned degrees from properly accredited programs. With this scenerio, I earned a BA, MBA, and a MA. I did have to drop one job to get the PhD. All regionally accredited. It's very doable.

Barry Foster

 

John, I completely agree!! I hope that when the "new version" of this board hits the streets, *real* names are required. It's too easy to be anonymous, sound like you actually know something, pretend to have experience or credentials, etc.

I have my suspicions regarding a few current posters here - with the flood of new folks that have recently appeared and claiming some pretty impressive resumes. They are claiming to be knowledgeable and credentialed, but then defend some pretty bogus ideas. Unfortunately, who knows how many consumers are fooled by the rhetoric. At least if real names were required, folks would tend to be a little more up front. It doesn't solve world hunger, but it helps.

I don't think we need to list our bank account numbers, but using one's real name normally helps to hold the person a little more accountable. (Oh yeah ... I hate anonymous company surveys too ... for the same reason!!!) Hiding in the shadows, it's too easy to take a cheap or errant shot!

Posters: Be brave! Stand tall! Be accountable for what you write and refuse to hide behind a cloak of anonymity!

Barry Foster

 

To make sure I'm not misunderstood:

I'm a fan of Ike! My last posting was not directed at him in the least! Ike is da man!

Barry Foster

 

Good that you recognize the difference between an education and a Lacrosse "degree." Now be a nice anonymous poster and look up "shill" in the dictionary.

- Dennis Madarang

(AS and BS from RA schools; full time job plus a part time job, new marriage, rotating shifts, et cetera.)

 

She does *NOT* hold a legitimate doctoral degree. She holds a fraudulent credential... to expand on what Rich said, she holds a worthless piece of paper from a business masquerading as an institution of higher learning.

There are at least a couple of individuals who have posted here that hold bogus credentials, but learned long ago that the bogus credentials are a far, far greater liability than any possible value they possess in deceiving people. They may hold the fraudulent degrees, but they no longer mention them anywhere, in any setting.

You will find almost no one on this forum (or, for that matter, anywhere else in academia) who will defend you or your employee for actively participating in the intentional misrepresentation of a Capella faculty member's credentials.

Clearly, Capella agrees, because it's removed all mention of her bogus degrees from its pages.



[Note: This message has been edited by Chip]

 

Originally posted by InfoQuest:
I wonder how many of you had to work full time and tried to acquire a degree. It is difficult to work and get an education and places like Lacrosse University allow you the flexibility to get a degree.

Uh, no. Places like LaCrosse rip off the ignorant by selling them worthless pieces of paper. Or, alternatively, they conspire with the perpetrators of fraud in defrauding potential employers.

I'll agree it isn't easy to earn earn a legitimate, regionally accredited degree while working full time, but it's quite possible... many, many of the participants here have done so.


If you go to Lacrosse’s page you will see that they have an accreditation from the WAUC


Which is completely and totally fraudulent and worthless. The World Association is a complete fraud operated out of a secretarial service in Las Vegas, owned by Maxine Asher, proprietor of a bogus school operating out of a strip mall in Iowa. No legitimate school on the planet would accept a degree from a WAUC-accredited school.


and it is licensed by the board of regents for the State of Louisiana.


Not for long; Louisiana law now requires that schools within its boundaries be on track for legitimate accreditation (DETC or Southern Association). There isn't a snowball's chance in Hell that LaCrosse will ever qualify for either. As such, you can bet that it will be moving to either the Virgin Islands, Hawaii, or one of the other states with lax oversight of schools.

Oh, and by the way: LaCrosse is owned by Harry Boyer, long associated with other less-than-wonderful programs. Further evidence of its worthlessness.


Lacrosse requires a full course load and a dissertation that is on file.

A "full course load" that if any work is required at all (which I doubt), it would consist of 100 level undergraduate work or less. The dissertation is probably a 20 page paper on something requiring little or no original thought, let alone original research, a proper defense, a dissertation committee, and all of the other traditional trappings of a legitimate Ph.D.

I'm sorry that you apparently got suckered into a LaCrosse degree, but my best heartfelt advice to you at this moment is to dump the program immediately and look for a legitimate school. Every day you spend doing work toward a LaCrosse degree is time down the drain at best, and effort contributing toward a time bomb in your resume at worst.

 

Stottlemyer still teaching at Capella?

I was just looking for information about Capella University and came across this site from another one. Apparently, Diane Stottlemyer is still teaching at Capella University and is now the subject of a lawsuit. I found information about her at a highly irreverant site called Crapella University Crapella University that claims Stottlemyer not only continues to work at Capella but that they still call her "doctor." If that's true, it really says a lot.

 

Re: Stottlemyer still teaching at Capella?

My question is, how did you find a four year-old thread??

 

Re: Re: Stottlemyer still teaching at Capella?

I saw it posted at http://www.capellauniversity.org/stottlemyer_degrees.html

 

The site mentioned attempts to slander Capella and its leadership using the same old anonymous character assassination tactics that we sometimes see on other boards. Diane Stottlemyer might be a problem, but I would find it impossible to believe the crap that is trumped up on the various "Capella sucks" web sites about the intentions and behavior of the leaders of the institution.

Capella is, ultimately, a good school. Expensive - yes. Good - most certainly. It is accredited by the North Central Association / RA. Need I say more?