A.T. Still University

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  1. KevinKovach

    KevinKovach New Member

    Does anyone have any information on A.T. Still University? I was looking at their doctoral program in health science.

    Thanks
     
  2. airtorn

    airtorn Moderator

    I did my MPH through ATSU and graduated in Jun 08. The DHSc is a new program with its first classes starting this fall. The current head of the program is a graduate of Nova Southeastern's DHSc program. I got the impression that ATSU and NSU have the only two DHSc programs in the country. The curriculum looks solid and the price is lower than at NSU.

    ATSU has been around in one form or another since 1892 and puts out a lot of medical professionals every year. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A.T._Still_University

    It is on my very short list of potential future education endeavors.
     
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  3. pizza111

    pizza111 New Member

    At Still Univ

    Great price
     
  4. warguns

    warguns Member

    A.T. Still

    I would be reluctant to be associated with A.T. Still simply because it is an osteopathic medical school.

    Osteopathy and Chiropractic are, in the opinion of many including myself, moronic superstitions. They are not evidence-based medicine.

    Fortunately, most DO's practice conventional medicine and pay no attention to the osteopathic nonsense.
     
  5. AV8R

    AV8R Active Member

    A DO can diagnose and treat any illness a MD can. A CO can even do surgery. Many of the newer medical schools in the U.S. are actually DO programs. I wouldn't dare tell a DO he/she is practicing a moronic superstition.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osteopathic_medicine_in_the_United_States
     
  6. warguns

    warguns Member

    AT Still

    As I stated, fortunately DO's know that osteopathy itself is nonsense and don't bother with it

    DO physicians receive training in Osteopathic Manipulative Medicine (OMM), a form of manual therapy shown to be of benefit for patients with certain musculo-skeletal disorders.[7] However, this form of therapy is used by a minority of osteopathic physicians in actual practice.[8

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osteopathic_medicine_in_the_United_States

    Here's the core the belief:

    his (AT Still) theory that disease and physiologic dysfunction were etiologically grounded in a disordered musculoskeletal system. Thus, by diagnosing and treating the musculoskeletal system, he believed that physicians could treat a variety of diseases ... .

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osteopathic_medicine_in_the_United_States

    Plainly, this is idiocy.

    Of course, conventional medicine was also 70% nonsense before germ theory (about 1875)

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germ_theory_of_disease


    Here's a classic essay on the subject

    http://www.chirobase.org/12Hx/mencken.html
     
  7. Bruce

    Bruce Moderator

    Well, I can tell you that I had crippling pain in my neck last year, and nothing worked until I went to a chiropractor. After a month of treatment and adjustments, the pain was gone and it hasn't returned. I go back every other month for a tuneup, and always feel better when I leave. That's all the evidence I need.
     
  8. mbaonline

    mbaonline New Member

    Steve Foerster, a long-time member of this board, has just started his doctorate in health ed. You could p.m. him or look at his profile and email him - his email is on his public profile.
     
  9. emergncmed

    emergncmed New Member

    ATSU just launched its inaugural class in the Doctor of Health Science program. It is correct that it is the second school in the country to offer this degree, although it has been offered for years in Europe and Australia. It is the first unifying doctorate offered to a multidisciplinary group of students post professional in healthcare. The first class has just completed the required writing and introduction courses and is moving into the second term.

    http://www.atsu.edu/ashs/online_programs/DHsc/index.htm
     
  10. -kevin-

    -kevin- Resident Redneck

    Daniel,

    Welcome aboard and thanks for the insight.
     
  11. airtorn

    airtorn Moderator

    What are your thoughts on Nova's DHSc?
     
  12. BlueMason

    BlueMason Audaces fortuna juvat

    Same here - had a few stuck ribs, Chiro did his magic and things are drastically better... and it is time again for a tune up...
     
  13. Tireman 44444

    Tireman 44444 Well-Known Member


    Amen my Patriots Fan Brother. I love my chiropractor. He is also an RMT ( Registered Massage Therapist) and is in the second year of clinicals for Licensed Nurse Practitioner. He has saved my running career ( Whereas three, yes three sportmedicine MD's could not figure it out). MANY MANY MANY runners and athletes use chirpractors. So Warguns, will all due respect, they do help many. I do respect your opinion, but many of us do use them. Just my three cents.
     
  14. Bruce

    Bruce Moderator

    Before every professional sports team hired a sports chiropractor on staff, Emmitt Smith had his own that he paid to travel with the team. His post-game routine involved deep-tissue massage and a complete chiropractic adjustment, which probably contributed to his amazing longevity for a running back.
     
  15. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    I'm in the health education program, not the health science one, which I understand is very different. I'm still in the first week of classes, but so far my experience has been good. Importantly, their admissions people aren't pushy, so if you want more info you shouldn't be afraid that asking them directly will lead to endless sales pitches.

    -=Steve=-
     
  16. mbaonline

    mbaonline New Member

    Thanks for correcting that Steve. When I replied, I didn't make the distinction, which I should have done.
     
  17. jgaddy33688

    jgaddy33688 Member

    question for Steve

    I read about the doctor of health ed and agree it sounds like an interesting program. what do you plan on doing with this degree and do you see this degree as interchangeable with an edd for your future goals?? thanks
     
  18. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    Those are interesting questions, which I've answered here.

    -=Steve=-
     
  19. jgaddy33688

    jgaddy33688 Member

    info

    Steve,
    Thanks for the information on your blog. It answered my questions.
     

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