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As I said every DETC school is better than Excelsior, their undergrad program anyhow. Many DETC schools do the same thing as Excelsior, they just don't believe that 100 % is appropriate.

 

Re: Re: LSAT scores being equal....

Life experience credits? Semantics! I don't think anyone missed the point.

Why would you accuse someone of lying?

 

Name ONE. Thank you.

 

Re: Re: Re: LSAT scores being equal....

With all your expertise in DL, you surely know the difference between Prior Learning Assessment and "experiential credit". Or do you?

OK, not "lying". Misleading.

 

Better? By what standard? Please provide support from educational experts who assert this. Or is this an opinion dressed up as a factual statement?

The degrees issued by DETC-accredited schools are certainly not more valuable--a clear reflection of perceived, if not actual--differences in quality. Gee, I wonder why that is?

There are schools that went years without regional accreditation, then became accredited by DETC when DETC got into that business. Gee, I wonder why that is?

There are schools that pursued DETC and regional accreditation simultaneously, getting DETC accreditation much sooner. Gee, I wonder why that is?

There are no schools (yet) that have been accredited by DETC, then have gone on to pursue successfully RA. One has achieved candidacy, though, so this may change soon. But so far, none. Gee, I wonder why that is?

Excelsior is accredited by its regional association. It, and its public predecessor, have been so for more than 30 years. There is no situation where it is defined that a degree from a DETC-accredited school is acceptable, but one from Excelsior is not. The reverse is often true, though. Gee, I wonder why that is?

 

Columbia Southern

 

From an educational standards standpoint DETC and RA are the same. And I believe, DETC standards in certain instances, may be tougher e.g. the use of proctored exams. RA has been around longer, is more represented by mainstream universities, is more widely known, and has broader recognition, gee... how many times does that have to be said?

I can think of a number of examples where a DETC or other nationally accredited degree is more valuable than an RA degree. It all depends on the individual's merit and circumstances. For instance, say I was hiring someone for a position as small boat designer (<200ft) and three candidates showed up. Two presented credentials from the Landing School and Westlawn Institute of Marine Technology respectively and the other presented an RA degree from U. of South Dakota in engineering management, psychology, business, or education. On face value, which do you think would be more acceptable? Even if Mr. RA could present similar skills and credentials, he would have no discernible advantage over the other two.

 

Fair enough, and CSU seem to be fine institution. But:
1) Apparently, they don't accept 100% transfer, so not a truly assessment college.
2) Excelsior runs its own (proctored) examination program, CSU does not.
2)Excelsior has some majors CSU does not provide.
3)Lower utility of a degree; i. e. CSU will not suit my wife whose goal is to eventually become a CPA.
4) Excelsior is a pioneer of assessment degrees for working professionals and is simply older (as an accredited institution at least) than CSU.
5) I was unable to find CSU's procedured for foreign credit.
6) CSU used to claim unrecognized accreditation. You can live with that, I can live with that, some cannot.
7)It can be assumed that Excelsior's degrees will be more readily accepted when applying for graduate study at RA university (here goes my wife's second goal: to gain admission, with financial aid, to FSU College of Business).

In short, Excelsior most definitely seem to be better than CSU at what it does. It does not provide MBA program, so CSU is better at that It also provide very little online coursework, so CSU is better at that too But for assessment, Big Three are king.

Now could you kindly explain why you feal Columbia Southern is better?

 

U Alberta library for use at CCU

That's great, Dennis. I've got good library access, too, but it's in bits and pieces at several smaller schools.

 

Let's all do this again in January. Crap.

They didn't do it.

 

I wonder if they got cold feet because of all the recent publicity.

 

Apparently there is getting to be quite a backlog of schools in limboland.

I had heard from someone who I had no particular reason to believe that CCU had been recommended for approval. Did the board get cold feet? Who knows.

 

No, what you said was that it was a complete certainty.

Don't be sad. It'll probably get DETC eventually. And if it was good enough to enroll in w/o DETC, it's still good enough. Right?

 

I was neither in favor, nor against, CCU's accreditation by DETC. I don't know the particulars of their operations; hence, I'm in no position to judge. But I was hopeful they would make it because it would send a clear message to the rest of the unaccredited schools pretending to be universities: they, too, could become real. But it didn't happen.

That said, I think all of the hardcore CCU defenders, the ones who said it was a lock, the ones who said CCU was on par (or better) that other, accredited schools, should be quiet now. Because CCU has demonstrated that they are not yet good enough even for the DETC, which has accredited Andrew Jackson, Columbia Southern, and ACCIS. If your school can't join THAT club, perhaps you're studying in the wrong place.

 

Perhaps it's either Gertrude or Heathcliff!

 

We will never really know what the problem was. The last few times out DETC has approved so few of the applicants and is backlogging large numbers of schools.

The school has faculty that except for one CCU grad have good doctorates from excellent schools. Their finances have to be excellent and I think all of 2 complaints have ever been filed with the California government.

Their educational programs are real and require a reasonable amount of work. Without accreditation CCU grads seem to be accepted in business and in academics to a degree rarely seen.

I can't imagine a problem. Anyhow its a delay, not a denial.

 

from a uusually (?) reliable source?

 

DETC is supposed to be persuaded against accrediting CCU because some outsiders may or may not have made comments about CCU? That's a pretty lame conspiracy theory laid out in that link.

Occam's Razor here. The simpler explanation is that CCU does not meet DETC's standards for accreditation. Period.

 

Same thing. DETC doesn't "deny" accreditation. It just fails to grant it, like here. Of course, CCU might be accredited some day in the future. It is not a "backlog." Is there any evidence that it was the number of applicants that caused this? No.

Failure today is not evidence of the potential for future success, no matter how strong the spin.

 

You mean it was a conspiracy? Or where they really outsiders, like really from far away?