48-72 Hours: Will Cal Coast Become USDoE Recognized?

Refraining from discussing the poster, just the post, I wonder: is there a school on the planet, accredited, unaccredited, RA, NA, GAAP, whatever, that will accept degrees from a DETC-accredited school but not from an RA school? Not all DETC- and regionally accredited schools, just one of each. One DETC-accredited school that is acceptable and one RA school that is not. Just one? I doubt it. I've never seen it. This is another reason why believing that there are DETC-accredited schools that are better than RA schools is fine, but unsupportable.

I think at least two DETC-accredited schools are near there: AMU and Aspen. They seem to be RA-able. AMU is on its way, of course. Still, that doesn't show that there are DETC-accredited schools that are better than some RA schools. Saying it doesn't make it so. But saying it does put the onus on the poster to back it up. As usual (always?), it wasn't.

 

The obvious intent of the statement was that a large number of RA distance learning programs would not qualify for DETC accreditation. Do you believe that there's any RA distance learning programs that wouldn't be able to be accredited by DETC?

 

I went through all of this on another thread that got deleted and I don't need to repeat it. It is interesting how my original statement that there are many "R/A schools" that are unaccreditable by DETC got changed to "R/A schools within the scope of DETC accreditation."

I can't think of a better way to win an argument than to pre-exclude the exceptions I was referring to.

 

Since it got deleted perhaps it does need to be repeated? Especially since you seem to say that it wasn't understood and I can't parse what you mean in the above post.

You state, "there are many "R/A schools" that are unaccreditable by DETC". Is that any different from what I said? Or are you saying that you were just being obtuse and misleading because most RA schools don't even offer distance learning?

What is "R/A schools within the scope of DETC accreditation" supposed to mean?

 

It doesn't need to be repeated because a couple severely intoxicated individuals were attacking me with one PMing threats of violence.

Ask Rich why he changed the parameters of my statement not me.

Sorry that I am obtuse and misleading.

 

Banking on CCU

I am eagerly awaiting any update on the DETC Accrediting Commissions results for CCU from the June 4-5 meeting. I feel that they should be able to receive accreditation. Any updates on the results, I would be eager to know.

 

Re: Banking on CCU

Apparently CCU was told that they will be given the decision on Monday.

 

So that when a potential student does research on the school, they are aware of their notorious past. Perhaps it would be irrelevant to some students. But that should be the student's choice. If a potential student believes that a school has changed its ways (or doesn't care) that is fine. But an accrediting body should not mandate that a school with a notorious past try to obfuscate it.

 

Harvard could not be accredited by DETC, because it is not an institution focused primarily on distance education. Does that mean that Harvard is inferior to all DETC schools?

Does it imply anything at all about the quality of Harvard, or about the quality of any DETC schools?

 

I am still unclear on what your statement was? You were saying that DETC is better accreditation than RA because most RA schools don't even offer distance learning options?? I seriously doubt that anyone changed the parameters of your statement on purpose. I think that your statement was so ambiguous that no one apparently understands what it was that you were trying to say or perhaps the exact meaning has somewhat mutated?

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Re: Re: Banking on CCU

Seems strange they won't get an answer before the meeting is over. I think in the past we often heard results BEFORE it was over. In any case, I think they are likely to get a pass.

 

Dave - In my over ten years with the DETC no school has ever learned of the accrediting commision's decision before the Monday following the meeting. They hear on Monday because Mike Lambert picks up the phone and calls them. The formal notification comes via a letter.

Even in the years when a school could make a 15 minute presentation to the commissioners when they were up for a decision they had to wait until Monday.

Mary A.

 

Mary,

Do you agree with DETC's position that schools with a "notorious reputation" should be required to change their name before receiving accreditation?

Jeff

 

LaSalle>>>>Orion







Tom Nixon

 

In regards to Aspen becoming a possible RA school, Can someone please clarify for me. 1st. I had considered enrolling in Aspen University as I am aware it is DETC etc. I visited the Denver location and it takes up maybe a 3rd of the floor it is on. A few offices etc. I can say that they are stringent on the requirements for enrollment and again, only positive things to say from my knowledge and observation, however, this brings me to my 2nd point of question.
Must a RA school have a bricks & morter campus to gain Regional accreditation? Look at TESC, univ. of Phoenix etc. They are focused on Distance learning, however, they have a campus and live instruction.
Again, just curious.

 

Hi Mary

Thanks for that information. My memory is probably faulty but I vaguely remember get reports before the officiak word. Again thanks for the post.

 

Just saying that DETC is different.

Sorry for being ambiguous and using mutated meanings.

 

No.

Most of the prominent distance schools are in the area of the North Central Association, which has been very receptive to distance programs.

I suspect with Excelsior, TESC and COSC, they just hold their nose.

SACS is very unreceptive to stand alone distance programs. That is why many large DETC schools are in the South.

These are simple generalizations and there are some exceptions.

 

"Simple." Yeah, that's it. Exceptions? How about some evidence instead?

 

I guess I was wrong.

Most big DL schools are probably not located in the NCU area.

Several of the bigger DETC schools are probably not located in the South.

And I am sure that the New England and Middle States accreditors would accredit any private, for profit, school that accepted 100 % transfer or experiencial credit.

Sorry I offered opinion without evidence. I will try to do better next time.