240 ECTS from Top European University need a BA

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  1. steveneurope

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    Hi,

    I was studying Law at 2 of the best european law school in Europe. In those Universities there was only one Full Degree in Law (4 years) without the combination BA + MA.

    Now I wanna send the application to one University in Sweden.
    As admission criteria they request at least a completed BA (180 ECTS).

    During my long study I was able to earn 240 ECTS all in LAW (more than the normal 180 ECTS) requested for the admission.

    I would like to know if there is a recognized University Institution around the world which is able to convert my 240 ECTS into a Degree (something like an Open Degree of the Open University).

    Can you please let me know what do you think about it?

    I am ready to pay someone for a mentorship.

    Thank you very much for your help!
     
  2. Kizmet

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    It's a good question and I'm sure our panel of experts (really just random members) will be happy to fill you in on how this might be accomplished.
     
  3. steveneurope

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    Hi,

    Thank you for the feedback!

    Can someone help me please?

    I would like also to pay someone if he can provide me further information.
     
  4. steveneurope

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    Hi

    Hi friends,


    Can someone give me a feedback?

    Best Regards
     
  5. Kizmet

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    OK, here's your feedback. Clearly your situation and question are sufficiently exotic that no one can give you advice. Having read your question again I think there are two reasons for this.

    1) This is a USA-centric discussion board. We know some things about higher education in other parts of the world but frankly, it just doesn't come up much here. Also, the fact that you've decided not to name specific schools, etc. doesn't help your case.

    2) When you boil it down, your question doesn't actually have anything to do with distance learning. Since this is a distance learning discussion board I might not be out of line if I point out that your question could easily be seen as being outside the bounds of this site.

    With all that said I'd suggest that you read through this board with special attention to "the big 3." These are schools that are known for accepting credits from other schools nad turning them into degrees. Our search function actually works rather well.
    Best of luck.
     
  6. SurfDoctor

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    I agree with everything Kizmet has said. But there is no need to pay anyone, it just looks like no one knows much about what you are asking. As Kizmet said, I would suggest that you name the schools you are referring to and that might come to the attention of someone who knows about the school you mention. Also as Kizmet said, the "Big 3" online schools are probably the most open to accepting transfer. I know that Excelsior College is often spoken of here as being open to a great deal of transfer. I remember one person saying that the other two are easily as open.

    If you really feel the need to pay someone, I'll help you out with that. Make your check payable to SurfDoctor. :smile: JK


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  7. steveneurope

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    Dear Moderators,

    Thank you very much for your answers, for your words and for the support!

    I have found the 3B and I have sent them an Email. I am not so optimistic, it think for international students there are many restrictions and they do not accept more than 90 credits.

    I had the same problem when I was speaking with the guys of the Open University in London.

    Do you have any other idea?Canada?Asia?Australia?
    I feel very sad, I just need this degree for the admission...

    Thank you a lot!
    Have a wonderful day!
     
  8. Kizmet

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    The most widely credit transfer options are in Belgium

    From my personal experience, you may claim credits from a Belgian university (Flemish part), and obtain a degree if the study paths are considered as similar.

    But after all, it also depends from where you obtained these credits.

    You may check the regulations of each university( there are not many though). The answers of your questions are mentioned under 'Exemptions' or 'Credit Transfer' sections.

    In which country did you study? Maybe there might be some other options depending where you obtained those credits.
     
  10. steveneurope

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    Hi,

    Thank you a lot for the Email!

    I was studying Law in Germany and Italy (best public Law School).

    What do you suggest me to do?

    Do you think should I try to contact all europeans universities and ask if they accept me for a One Year Master Degree or firstly let someone transfer my 240 ECTS into a 180 ECTS Degree and then follow my dream and complete the application at the Stockholm University?

    I spent so much time working on this issue..

    Thank you for your help and support!
     
  11. steveneurope

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    Dear guys,

    Thank you very much for your support and help!

    Goal: Convert my 240 ECTS in Law into a Bachelor and apply for a Master in Law in Sweden.

    Here my REPORT:

    USA:
    3 B (US Online Universities): They can recognize max. 70% of the credits for a Bachelor Degree. So I dont think its a good idea!

    EUROPE:
    I sent more than 40 Email to the Admission Office of half Europe, I got everytime the same answer like "look to the admission page" ..."we will recognize part of your courses etc"..."you cannot study if you dont have a bachelor etc"

    I think this kind of educational system damage my profile, my freedom and my future carrier.

    What would you suggest me to do? I am feeling very frustrated!

    Thank you very much for your help!
     
  12. Kizmet

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    You may simply need to accept the fact that many of your credits will not be accepted. Sometimes life just sucks. Make your best deal and then move forward.
     
  13. LLL

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    What I can simply suggest is the following:
    Apply to a Flemish uni for bachelor, no matter what the teaching language is.Top up missing credits if needed. Then apply to a master where you can get again exemptions for the whole degree as the Belgian bachelor and master system is 3+1 years.
    I got my master's degree only with one single course. Believe me it's a lot easier to get credits than anywhere else
     
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    Hey, "LLL". Why don't you be more specific and name some Universities (or your One Course University), so people here can be more aware of this all stuff ?
     
  15. Lerner

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    In general most universities require some work in order to award the degree.
    Some will accept your credits and will require couple of Capstone projects, others will allow 75% in to BS program and you will have to complete the 25%.

    When dealing with European universities I find out that some will accept equivalent professional Qualification instead of Bachelors.

    As long as the qualification is on the level 6 on EQF ( European Qualifications Framework)and awarded by recognized professional body.
    You may want to explore this rout.

    My friend had 3 associate degrees with total of 200 semester credits in USA and number of upper level BA classes as well. 120 are needed for BA degree. But the issue is not only the number of credits.
    One needs general education, Science and upper level classes etc to satisfy degree requirements.
    A EU professional Body accepted my friends credits toward a recognized level 6 qualification.

    In US she was able to get NACES evaluation as equivalent to US RA degree and with all the credits she had she was accepted in to Colorado State University , MBA program.

    Maybe University of Sweden can accept the same?

    Some food for thought
     
  16. LLL

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    Even though there is high level of bureaucracy in Flemish Universities, there are always dependencies and contingencies.

    Previously earned credits and practicals are widely applied in Flemish universities under the name EVK and EVC leading exemption from the course. In Belgium, many Flemish students complete their degree relatively shorter period of time as the education system allows transfers, progressions and transitions in and between the programs.

    Why I am not more specific is there are only 4 Flemish universities and 1 university college offering law degrees. And exemption request cases are always handled one by one.

    So, my case was different than this one. For Management degree I checked all programs to see where I can match the credit requirements of the program with what I previously took.

    What I only know by first hand, University of Antwerp had the least willingness to accept previous credits and what they offered is to take extra credits to reach the minimum requirement of the program.On the other hand, Vrije Universiteit Brussel was the easiest one. But again, my situation was for another degree, and other faculties' approaches might be different that what I experienced.

    So, University of Ghent and Katholieke Universiteit Leuven are the other two offering Bachelor degrees in law. And finally, Hogeschool-Universiteit Brussel also offers a law degree, while they ask you around 600 euros to evaluate your previous credentials in order to grant you a degree via exemption request whereas the rest are for free.

    All law degrees are mainly in Dutch language but I believe they have among the most flexible one in terms of language of instruction.

    What I can suggest is to check the websites to see the course content and see which one matches best, then contact the faculty administration to evaluate the credit transfer options.

    Hope this helps better.
    If not, please let me know..
     
  17. Ian Anderson

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    To follow up on Lerner's comments Bachelor degrees in the USA require many general education requirements. For example here are the requirements for Excelsior College degree in liberal arts
    https://my.excelsior.edu/c/document_library/get_file?uuid=f9efcdb6-2dad-4c83-b2e0-43725d335e94&groupId=78666
    Your law credits would fit into the electives area so you would be eligible for a maximum ofjust under 50% of the requirements. If you have credits in other areas (math, English, history, etc) then you might get credit for other course requirements.

    Another way to earn credit is by passing challenge exams such as CLEP and DSST. These exams are offered at locations in Europe.

    And another method is via Portfolio - you can earn credit for ares where you have significant knowledge and experience (such as non-english languages). See the home page http://www.degreeinfo.com/content/
     
  18. steveneurope

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    Hi,

    I am still trying to find a solution. I have so many credits but it looks all educational institutions want to recognize me only 2/3 of a Bachelor Degree (120 ECTS) and let me lose 1 year to integrate at least 60 ECTS.

    As I told, I have around 240 ECTS and I am just trying to find a way to have the requested degree for the admission in Sweden.

    Thank you all for your great support and help!
     
  19. steveneurope

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    Someone has a new feedback?
     
  20. Johann

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    You might want to take a look at Athabasca University in Canada. It is a distance institution, properly chartered in Canada and also RA, to serve the needs of US students. As far as I know, they have precisely ONE degree program, the 3-year Bachelor of General Studies, that can be completed 100% by credits earned elsewhere.

    I have no idea if:

    (a) Your credits will fit this particular degree's requirements
    (b) The degree will suffice. It might, seeing that 3-year Bachelor's degrees are much more common in Europe than in US.

    No harm in talking to them. School has a good reputation. Athabasca University : Canada's Leader in Online & Distance Education

    Johann
     
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