Master's degree in order to remain employed?

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  1. oxpecker

    oxpecker New Member

    I think it's not so much that the low demand jobs to which Mark refers can't be offshored, but that it's not worthwhile for a corporation to outsource such niche jobs.
     
  2. -kevin-

    -kevin- Resident Redneck

    one need not look offshore for outsourcing. The current President's Management Agenda calls for the competitive outsourcing for 845,000 federal jobs. Once I get offered a buyout we can swap jobs.

    Take a look at:

    www.usajobs.opm.gov

    or

    www.cpol.army.mil

    IT jobs are in high demand-normally the 2210 series

    within the 2210 series there are several tracts; i.e. software, systems analysis, data, etc...

    new hires in the Fed Govt have an edge as recruitment bonuses can be up to 25% of your base salary.

    additionally approval was just granted to repay student loans at the rate of no more than $10,000 per year or $60,000 total

    Engineering jobs are plentiful

    Keep in mind lots of applicants and currently only top 3 come across a selecting officials desk. That rule will change shortly and allow for a broader list of applicants.

    Now the best part: almost 45% of the current federal workforce can retire and most will do so in the next 5 years.

    One word of advice. Aim as high as you can when applying because upward mobility is limited at the upper levels

    If I can help, this is one area I have some expertise.

    as an aside, a associate is from Beijing and a math professor here in the states. I doubt if many of us would leave our positions or home country for his salary.

    Kevin
     
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  3. roy maybery

    roy maybery New Member

    I have on occasion found it necesssary to keep my degrees quiet in order to get employment.

    Roy Maybery
     
  4. dis.funk.sh.null

    dis.funk.sh.null New Member

    I am curious Roy, how so?

     
  5. roy maybery

    roy maybery New Member

    It centres around my two main ways of earning a living. I am both a high school teacher and a licenced machinist. On those occasions when I get tired of the kids and want to go back to machine shop for a while, I have to send out a flurry of resumes. If an industrial employer sees an arts degree much less a B.Ed and teaching experience. the resume is immediately filed in the waste basket and archived in the municipal dump. I know this from bitter experience. If I remove all academic qualifications the job offers come thick and furious.

    Roy Maybery
     
  6. P. Kristian Mose

    P. Kristian Mose New Member

    Bad optics

    Roy's last post is a helpful splash of cold water. Sometimes one area of expertise or credential undermines another. It can even work within the same broad field: if a potential adult piano student were to learn that I have a companion career as a journalistic music critic, he or she would quite possibly look elsewhere for lessons. Conversely, if a critic learns that I teach piano, my stock as a critic declines.

    Often it is best to say little about one's other talents. Stupid, but there it is.

    Peter
     
  7. Buckwheat

    Buckwheat New Member

    Roy,
    I have the same problem, as Tool & Die maker working on my Master's degree. This is the usual scenario: My application looks good to an H.R. or mid level manager, it passes down the food chain to someone with zero credentials; application goes on "Auto-Threat" and I get filed away in the round cabinet.
    Yes, it is much wiser to pick and choose the event when all personal education levels should be exposed. At the moment, I'm trying to abandon the volitile maunfacturing sector, for the public education sector, but until I finish up the Master's program I will be caught between the "hammer and anvil" of applying at companies who long term remedy is to "off-shore"! Perhaps, I may run into the off-shored/auto-threat folks as buggy pushers at Wal-mart someday! hahahhaha!
    Best,
    Gavin
     
  8. dis.funk.sh.null

    dis.funk.sh.null New Member

    Yeah now I fully understand what you mean guys!!! I've been there too... I used to be a travel agent part-time (with an engineering degree lol) People used to look at me funny and even hold it against me when I told them I had a B.Eng in electrical engineering. I had to earn money somehow in the wake of the outsourcing boom (or is it booming yet by the way? I think it hasn't even warmed up :confused: ) so eventually I started keeping silent about my "academic" past... oh well, a man's gotta do what a man's gotta do (women too - I am not being gender biased) :D lolz

    Mahmood
     
  9. Pete

    Pete New Member

    I transferred my credits. I majored in math before dropping out of college and enlisting in the service. I had been eyeballing Regents College ever since I found out about them at the base Navy Campus office. My last assignment was cushy and the local state u. offered upper level math courses during the evening. I completed my requirements and became a civilian the same month.

     

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