DETC Engineering Degrees

I think they are talking about more "traditional" engineering positions, such as electrical, electronic, mechanical, etc.. Usually this type of job requires atleast a four year degree in engineering. IT and computers (I think because it is a newer field maybe?) do not necessarily require formal education to qualify for positions in network engineering. I would think a network engineer would be a more applied role than that of an electrical or mechanical engineer.

Best Regards,
Bill

 

DETC Degrees

I attended the US Army Engineer School and took engineering courses through the Army Institute of Professional Development (AIPD), which is DETC Accredited.

My experience in the Army is that an Army Sergeant Major or Engineer Officer in a conventional Engineer Battalion, especially a Heavy Construction unit has as much practical experience than most EITs and many PEs.... But, in the civilian world, their Army training is NOT recognized... at least not like a degree from an ABET school...

I designed and constructed roads, airfields, water treatment plants, housing, etc and could not get a job as a construction inspector for the NYS DOT because they didn't recognize the Army training I had recieved.

I finally had my certificates and diplomas evaluated through the American Evaluation Institute and recieved a RA BSCE Equivalency.

BTW, things have changed as far as accreditation goes. I worked at a very large architecture firm back in the 80s and one of the architects on the staff NEVER went to college. He worked for an architecture firm from the time he graduated high school and many years later took the state exams. He was a Registered Architect and a Registered Landscape Architect.

I have alot of experience with British education and the Chartered Institute of Builders and the Institution of Civil Engineers. The UK will accept a DETC degree, however it will probably be good for qualification as a Incorporated Engineer.

Avi

 

Engineering

Zehavi,

You mentioned the Incorporated Engineering title might be available to DETC engineering graduates.

How do you feel the Incorporated Engineering title will be interpreted in the United States?

Would the American Evaluation Institute grant a BS equivalence to an Incorporated Engineer?

Could a Incorporated Engineer apply to sit for the EIT exam from a state licensing board in the US?

Paul

 

DETC Degrees

Paul,

I was introduced to the British engineering profession when I attended the Royal Military College of Science to learn about the design of the Medium Girder Bridge.

As far as the British qualification of Incorporated Engineer is concerned, the Institution of Civil Engineers, UK as well as the Institution of Incorporated Engineers and the Chartered Institute of Builders are all recognized by the US engineering and construction industries. I have a colleague who is an Incorporated Engineer and worked at Black and Veach here in the US with his British qualification. I am almost certain that an Incorporated Engineer can easily sit for the EIT exam, and it may be possible that an Incorporated Engineer need not sit for the exam as the Incorporated Enginer qualification is a professional designation (an Incorporated Engineer is NOT an intern).

A great benefit of Incorporated Engineer status is that one can upgrade to Chartered Engineer status after four years of practical experience.

I don't know what kind of engineering you are involved in but the Institution of Civil Engineers, UK are fully recognized by the American Society of Civil Engineers. Furthermore, a person holding an Incorporated Engineer or Chartered Engineer status can work freely as a Professional Engineer in Canada, UK, Hong Kong, Australia, New Zealand, Zimbabwe, South Africa, and India with no other qualification.

Zehavi

 

I am curious as to what a incorporated engineer, and chartered engineer is? Can you explain?

 

See the following:
http://www.engc.org.uk/registration/index.asp

 

An incorporated engineer is the same as an engineering technologist in the U.S. a chartered engineer is the same as a professional engineer in the U.S.

 

Thanks. That makes since.

 

DETC - Incorporated Engineer

An Incorporated Engineer is not exactly an Engineering Technologist... An Incorporated Engineer is a professional designation, however the qualification lacks "time in grade" or experience toward a Chartered status.

A Chartered Engineer is the exact equivalent as a PE.

Zehavi

 

An incorporated engingeer also has different education requiremints than a chartered engineer. Experienced incorporated engineers can become chartered engineers it just takes more experince to make up for the differences in education. The same is true for technologists in the U.S., they can become professional engineers with enough experience. Incorporated engineers are not just inexperinced engineers there is a distinct difference between chartered engineers and incorporated engineers.

 

Zehavi & Friends,

Thank you for your replies. I found that you reconfirmed what I thought was true about the Incorporated Engineering Title I was pursuing. I'm participating in the Mature Candidate Route and have my paper 95% completed.

Paul