GAAP is not RA

Discussion in 'General Distance Learning Discussions' started by DWCox, Aug 20, 2003.

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  1. DWCox

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    It wasn't too long ago that you were duped for over one year by a degree mill. You should thank Steve Levicoff for staying on your ass for as long as he did or you might have lost more than just time. For this year you preached GAAP utility, which most other posters advised would be limited due to the Mexican origin of your degree.

    Oh ya, RA means so much to you that you teach at an unaccredited institution. You have stated on many occasions that the VAST majority of degrees awarded from an unaccredited institution are worthless. Do you advise your students that they are wasting their time, but making you money.

    How can you sit back and watch these students waste their time?

    So your institution has expressed an interest accreditation, this is a far cry from gaining accreditation. So your institution never gains accreditation, how's this going to make you feel.

    Now Rich, argue accreditation and the utility thereof and go to work tomorrow at an unaccredited institution, which BTW knows so little about accreditation that when asked if accreditated, responds affirmatively-- the institution that is.
     
  2. DWCox

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    It wasn't too long ago that you were duped for over one year by a degree mill. You should thank Steve Levicoff for staying on your ass for as long as he did or you might have lost more than just time. For this year you preached GAAP utility, which most other posters advised would be limited due to the Mexican origin of your degree.

    Oh ya, RA means so much to you that you teach at an unaccredited institution. You have stated on many occasions that the VAST majority of degrees awarded from an unaccredited institution are worthless. Do you advise your students that they are wasting their time, but making you money.

    How can you sit back and watch these students waste their time?

    So your institution has expressed an interest in gaing some form of accreditation, this is a far cry from gaining accreditation, isn't it? So your institution never gains accreditation, how's this going to make you feel?

    Now Rich, argue accreditation and the utility thereof and go to work tomorrow at an unaccredited institution, which BTW knows so little about accreditation that when asked if accreditated, responds affirmatively-- the institution that is.
     
  3. DWCox

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    I don't carr about Mexican education per se. I do venture to say that most persons would not rate Mexican institutions of higher learning on par with USA RA institutions. No, I haven't researched this topic nor do I care to, but perception is reality, isn't it?

    I don't think the average Mexican institution could get RA. They're all eligible right?
     
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  4. Gus Sainz

    Gus Sainz New Member

    Then why bring it up several times? Why, then, display your ability to do so as you did with Jack?

    To employ a term once may be a poor choice; to employ a term several times, and to actually prove that your behavior matches your words, cannot be characterized as such.

    What do you mean by “hold accountable?” My ideas, commentary, and opinions, stand on their own. If you cannot refute them or prove them wrong, how would knowing personal information about me help prove your case? You only want such information because you believe it would give you ammunition for a personal attack. :rolleyes:

    The only thing that makes my ideas pointless (from your viewpoint) is that they do not suit your purposes (therefore you disagree with them) yet you cannot refute them. Let’s talk about accountability shall we? Please prove that I don’t have any degrees. You made the statement; it is incumbent upon you to prove it. This, like so many of your statements, is fallacious; you simply can’t provide any evidence to back it.

    See? This is just another personal attack that you can’t substantiate. Whose Web site did I copy? That should be an easy thing to prove, right? C’mon Wes, it’s all about accountability. Isn’t it? :rolleyes:
     
  5. DWCox

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    RA is best, I agree wholly but to have a degree -- even an NA degree -- is better than no degree, isn't it?

    Other NA institutions offer options -- including course format -- that might not be be found in the RA community.

    So RA is comparable to NA in terms of cost, big deal!

    What if a person needs a certain course format and lower cost?
    Limiting the degree options to just RA -- because the degree might have greater utility -- might just prevent someone from finding a degree program with suitable course format and affordable cost.
     
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  6. DWCox

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    All you're doing is taking the research of other professionals -- many -- and putting your name on it. Just as others have said about every other DL book outside, Bears.
     
  7. DWCox

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    How can I personally attack someone that does not exist?

    You see it's kind of like confession, when you expose and acknowledge your sins you can free your soul.

    Apologize only to God and see whether or soul feel better?

    Gus, you just keep arguing behind your protective wall.
     
  8. DWCox

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    How can I personally attack someone that does not exist?

    You see it's kind of like confession in the Catholic tradition, when you expose and acknowledge your sins you can free your soul and others believe you because you are willing to be held accoutable.

    Apologize only to God and see whether your soul feels better?

    Gus, you just keep arguing behind your protective wall.

    Gus, why don't you let all your knowledge work for you and go to one of the assessment institutions and get a degree?
     
  9. Gus Sainz

    Gus Sainz New Member

    It is nice that you are willing to be held accountable. Perhaps you could begin by explaining the precise mechanism by which you are held more accountable than any other member of this forum.

    By what convoluted logic process did you come to believe that you are held accountable to your comments and I am not? Please explain the difference between your posts on this forum and mine (except, of course, for the fact that I can actually prove everything I post). Better yet, how do you propose we hold you accountable for this cockamamie statement?

    The fact that each member’s comments are forever documented for all to see is a true statement Moreover, this statement will hold true until this forum dies (and if it is archived, even after that). What’s your point? Are you concerned that some of your posts (I can think of a few) will come back to haunt you? If your posts were here for posterity and mine were not, you might have a point. However, that isn’t the case, it?

    Once again, what the heck do you mean by accountability? To me it means that if you make a statement, you should be prepared to back it. You should not be able to state opinions as fact only to have to later admit that you did not research the matter and it is only your perception (or worse, attribute your perception to an entire culture or society). :rolleyes:
     
  10. Gus Sainz

    Gus Sainz New Member

    So, now I am a figment of your imagination? You do realize that you are responding to me on a public forum and that your comments will be here forever for all to see, don’t you? You have painted yourself into a corner; if I don’t exist, you are insane. :D

    Huh? If your point is that we are all accountable to God, what makes you more accountable than I am? Is that what they are teaching you at ACCS? I doubt it.

    Huh? What kind of question is that? What does that have to do with this forum?

    What makes my wall more protective than yours? You, apparently, aren’t really accountable for your statements. If you were, you wouldn’t spew them out willy-nilly, without the slightest regard for truth or whether you have any evidence to support them. :rolleyes:

    Why? Are you implying I don’t have any degrees? Are you implying I haven’t received a degree from one of the assessment institutions? Can you prove any of this? Of course you can’t. So much for accountability. :rolleyes:
     
  11. Dennis Ruhl

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    Gus - Just where did you get that bushel basket of degrees?
     
  12. DWCox

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    You can't produce or prove that you have any degrees, or you would!

    Those who do, do and those who don't skirt the issue.
     
  13. Gus Sainz

    Gus Sainz New Member

    I believe, Wes, that you have now crossed the line. Accusations of plagiarism are taken very seriously in academia and on this forum. You claim you are accountable. Well, now you have to prove you are.

    You will either provide specific examples of the plagiarism you allege I have committed, or issue a public retraction and apology. I have never advocated the banning of another member of this forum. If, however, you do not issue a retraction and apology, you will be the first.

    :mad: :mad: :mad:
     
  14. Gus Sainz

    Gus Sainz New Member

    You made the statement that I didn't have any degrees. It is incumbent upon you to prove that I don't.

    Once again, you prove that you are not accountable.
     
  15. Gus Sainz

    Gus Sainz New Member

    From regionally accredited institutions, Dennis, or did you forget? Wouldn't it be cool if, after you earned your degrees, you could say the same? :D
     
  16. Dennis Ruhl

    Dennis Ruhl member

    But I could, with about the same believability as you Gus.:D
     
  17. BillDayson

    BillDayson New Member

    This thread is growing increasingly bizarre.

    Do yourselves a favor. Go outside into the sunlight and enjoy the afternoon.
     
  18. Stanislav

    Stanislav Well-Known Member

    So let me see: you back up your opinions (about AMERICAN education) with your assessment of something you neither know about nor particularly care? And at the same time, lecture people about "accountability"? Seems pretty irresponsible to me.
     
  19. Stanislav

    Stanislav Well-Known Member

    Now what the hell any of this have to do with the topic in hand?
    You've just gave a perfect example against your ridiculous claim that people posting on public webpages are somehow obliged to disclose their personal information to the world. Rich works in the field and have his reasons to be seen as a real person in online discussions (so he could make a name for himself in real life by providing valuable info online, for example; I could be wrong about his motivation of course). Others do not feel such a need, and have both a right and a real reason to protect their privacy.
    See how quickly it become irrelevant whether your position is valid or not? You chose to make this topic a a flame filled with personal attacks.
     
  20. Gus Sainz

    Gus Sainz New Member

    What else is new? Same old ad hominem bullshit. :rolleyes:

    Uh, what sunlight? I spent the morning practicing instrument approaches and poking holes in the sky. I spent the afternoon by the pool with the kids. What makes you think we are all in your time zone? :D
     
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