Diploma Mill

I know in the USA it is illegal to offer commission based marketing - the RA authorities forbid this as part of the accreditation compliance.

Cheers,

George

 

Re: but why...

Yes the sale in 1993 allowed the purchaser to retain the use of the name.

The same thing happened with Emile Woolf College. Emile has worked in auditing practice with Kingston Smith for around 20 years but his college still retained his name.

At one time Emile was probably the best known name in the world of auditing and so the name carries a premium.

Perhaps this practice is more common on this side of the pond?

 

Thats all very interesting Jeff - thanks for the info. By the way, you wouldn't happen to know where Dr LeCornu earned all of his qualifications, would you?

Cheers,

George

 

I think it is the other way round. The High Commission grants the student the right to study in the UK. This act makes the applicant a full-time student although he is only required to attend a college for 15 hours a week.

The college activities and reporting are governed by the Home Office who regularly send round inspectors to ensure that students are indeed studying at the college and that the returns required by the Home Office are properly kept.

Of course the college grants student status to anyone who joins the college.

The Jeff Wooller College problems with the High Commissions related only to degree courses and not to professional accountancy courses. Most of the students of Jeff Wooller College will probably be full-time students.

Any UK person doing a full-time course at Jeff Wooller College is classed as a part-time student because the term full-time student is a special category in the UK.

Yes the person referred to is Felix Orogun who has run Jeff Wooller College very successfully for over 10 years. He had previously been my assistant.

He is no longer involved in running degree courses in any shape or form.

 

I am not sure what he has got but I would have thought that his Professor and Doctor are from St Clements. But I have never asked the question.

It is not unusual for those in charge of non-traditional universities to make such awards. I accept it as a fact but do not condone it.

Clearly there should be better control of the non-traditional universities. But I was not happy with some of the controls in the traditional universities. The business of having external validators cannot work as the universities choose ther own! It has to be government controlled and the government does not care.

Governments are more interested in waging wars than in education.

 

Yes, the credibility factor certainly does plummet when one awards oneself a postgraduate degree merely because they own the operation. Don't you feel a little uncomfortable working side by side somebody who has done this?

While were on the topic, rumour has it that Dr Sandhu has his degrees from his own operations too - true or false?

Cheers,

George

 

The Institute of Professional Financial Managers lists you as the founder with the title "Professor Dr Jeff Wooller". Is this accurate? May I ask which institution awarded the professorship?

 

Are all these one and the same Jeff?

* The Irish Business School
* Irish International University
* Irish University Business School

And why, may I respectfully ask, is there such an infatuation with Ireland? Warnborough University have the same status, and Earlscroft University used to be incorporated there as well. Is it due to their lax laws regarding the use of the word 'university' in a business name?

Cheers,

George

 

I have long wondered if the principal market for operations of this sort consists mostly of U.S. citizens. If so, then it is important to have the degree-granting organization based in an English language country. Ireland is not governed by the regulations that allow the DfES list of "Recognised Bodies" to define who can offer degrees. So the regulatory landscape is different.

 

Yes I feel uncomfortable working alongside these but I feel that I can offer them more than I could to say Oxbridge.

I am in the process of cleaning up the website of IIU. If it does not get cleaned up to my satisfaction then I can sever ties with the university.

Likewise with St Clements University I have been able to exercise a favourable influence on the standards of its PhDs. I have proposed that in future all theses should be examined by someone who has taken a PhD at a traditional university.

Today I have turned down an application for a PhD with SCU because there was no mention of statistical testing. I have suggested that the person considers instead an MPhil.

I have not asked Dr Sandhu where he got his qualifications from and have assumed that they are self awarded.

 

I got my professor title from IIU at the time that I became Vice Chancellor. You could say that it came with the job!

I would have preferred it to have come from Oxbridge but we all have dashed aspirations.

I was on one occasion asked to apply for a vacant chair at CASS by the Dean. However, having applied I did not get on the short list!

On emails etc I prefer to use my Dr title as this was gained legitimately from CASS. However, I would be the first to admit that at the time I got the doctorate the university did not enjoy the enhanced status it has today!

 

The Irish Business School changed its name to Irish University Business School.

The Irish International University is quite independent of the Irish University Business School. Indeed in Malaysia in particular the two are rivals.

There is also no connection between the Irish International University and St Clements University. Indeed there is bad blood between them as IIU accuses SCU agents in Malaysia from 'bad mouthing' the IIU.

This is a perfect example of the 'pot calling the kettle black'!

Ireland has attracted the non-traditionals because the use of the word 'university' was not restricted. However, more importantly there are no restrictions on who can issue degrees.

It is widely expected that these loopholes will be closed at some time.

 

I have never come across any U.S. citizens of the following universities:
Irish International University
St Clements University
Irish University Business School

Irish International University is big in the Far East.
St Clements University is big in Africa.
Irish University Business School is not big anywhere.

 

Thank you for the answers, Dr Wooller.