Saint Regis University

***Yawn***, factually inept about me, this is the SAME thread where I said "NO 3rd World Country school is Equiv to US RA" ...
Your response is just one of many examples of what's wrong with degreeinfo... don't get your hand blown off on a firecracker.

 

I would be very surprised if Bob was really disgusted. I believe that he said that in a feeble attempt to further his more obvious agenda.

 

Atlas1212 says that defrauding people with degree mill degrees is okay if it get one more money and you're not disgusted by that declaration of bankrupt integrity nor are you disgusted by atlas1212 calling people jackasses but you're "disgusted" by Jack's post? Yea right. Your response is joust one of many examples of what's wrong with dishonest people.

 

Bill are you calling me dishonest? I work in Carlsbad CA, I would love to discuss this with you face to face about my "dishonesty".

 

This forum is weird. I know that this thread touched some hotbuttons, but it's frustrating to have people putting words in your mouth or mischaracterizing what you say. I never said I would use a diploma mill degree personally. I simply said that I went to school to improve my financial status and I can understand why people use degree mills to do the same. In some cases, there is absolutely nothing illegal about doing that. I have always maintained that. To throw out words like "defraud" and "illegal", you have to back it up. In some cases, these words are true, but not in all circumstances, especially not with what I was saying. I never endorsed going to SRU personally, I just exposed the fact that there are probably 1000 schools out there that will accept you with an SRU degree. It just shows that these mills are not "useless" and as long as they remain legal in many capacities, people are just going to have to realistically deal with the consequences.

As a side note, I would expect a vast acceptance of Liberian degrees after the U.S. enters this conflict there. People are going to be sympathetic to Liberia and are going to see Liberian "graduates" as people of interest. It will also be very non-PC to not accept a degree from a war torn country. I mainly mean from an employer point of view.

 

A simple reading of my post will reveal that I never claimed that you said the two were equivalent. I claimed that you said that Liberian accreditation had value (which I believe it does not). However, there's something more interesting going on in your response: I offer a criticism of your position on this issue and I wrap my criticism in some satiric humor. The next thing that happens is that your mind conjures up a vision of me being violently dismembered. This is disturbing and I fear for the people close to you. It is well known that people who have violent fantasies are only a small step from carrying them out. As I do not wish to contribute to the instability of your situation I will resist the temptation to comment further. BTW, you don't happen to work for the Postal Service, do you?

Jack

 

I disagree. How many employers do you know of that are recruiting graduates of schools from Afghanistan, Somalia, or Haiti?


Bruce

 

You did no such thing; you did not demonstrate that many schools (much less thousands) accept a St. Regis degree as a mater of policy. Quite the contrary, you asserted that one school accepted the degree and that averment proved to be false. The only thing being exposed is you—as a dishonest conniver with an (not so hidden) agenda.

 

I condemn. This is profiteering off the misery of the Liberians. Will it even work? Unlikely. Picture this:

Q. Where's your degree from?
A. St. Regis
Q. Where's that?
A. In Liberia--sort of.
Q. Howzat?
A. It's accredited by the Liberian government.
Q. You mean the government of Charles Taylor?
A. The same!
Q. You mean the government which traffics in blood diamonds, helped foment civil war in Sierra Leone, worked with al-Qaeda,
was condemned by the EU and the US and the UN, and whose president is wanted on charges of armed robbery in Massachusetts? That Liberian government? The one we may send US troops to help dislodge?
A. The same!
Q. Well, well, my boy, I hope you'll accept our job offer. We're proud of you!
A. You're so kind, but I really must hold out for more money. After all, I'm a university graduate. It's the principle of the thing, nothing personal.
Q. Well, well, my boy, there's nothing like a man of principle! Here, have a suitcase full of Liberian dollars. Oh, and as a souvenir, a pickled arm of a non-combatant hacked off by one of President Taylor's finest child soldiers. Go ahead, put it right here on your desk.
A. Right under my St Regis diploma! Gee whillikers, boss, I'm gonna like working here!

(Fade with background of "All hail, Liberia, hail" played by a salon orchestra of vampires. Exeunt omnes.)

 

Sheesh, I wish you a safe July 4th and you come up with some crazy story about dismemberment and the Postal Service, I know I'm not the one who's unstable.

 

Listen BobC, I believe that you're being dishonest about your disgust. Just like I thought I said.

You insulting the whole Degreeinfo forum is not a good way to get a positive response. You know very well that atlas1212 said more than one reference to money. It wasn't the reference to the money that was the problem. It was the apparent dishonesty that went along with it. He said that he didn't care what the name was on the diploma. If it was the degree mill SRU that would be fine. What mattered was whether or not it got him what he wanted. The end justified the means.

BTW, you need to be more thoughtful about what you write. Your statement could easily be interpretted as a threat which would be amusingly childish if that was what you meant.

 

Characterizing ***some*** RA schools accepting SRU all the way to Drug dealing over a fence is disgusting, that's not funny to me, nor dishonest.

And Mr. Huffman, it's YOU who needs to be more thoughtful about what YOU write. Never write about someone online you wouldn't say to their face.

 

1: I was not dishonest. I stated that I can UNDERSTAND how the ends justify the means. Especially when legal. Which many of these "mills" are. Accept it, they are LEGAL. It is up to the college and employer to decide if they accept it, not YOU.

2: Bellevue WOULD accept an SRU degree. Maybe not now after Dr. Bear put pressure on them. But if I would have kept this under my hat, I have NO DOUBT that they would have accepted an application from an SRU graduate and summarily let them enroll in graduate classes. There are probably MANY other schools out there that will do the same. Once again, it's LEGAL. It's the SCHOOLS decision. Not yours.

3: I have been honest, even to the point of inviting your criticism. BUT, I'm not the honesty police as far as schools go. You guys can whine all you want about the "value" of SRU or other schools.. But the fact you can't come to grips with is that there IS value. You say it's worthless because their practices make you mad and you feel they are dishonest, but realistically, there is inherent value in these diplomas. The value being possible academic advancement and career advancement. The value is not high, but it is there. To act like it is worthless is to deny the truth.

4: I'm not willing to stake my life on the acceptance of a Liberian degree after this conflict, I'm just stating that the publicity in my opinion will tend to lend legitimacy to it. If the U.S. goes in and restores order, there will be a "good feeling" associated with Liberia. A degree with Liberia stamped on it will be less obscure and foreign and more associated with that "good feeling" to employers.

5: Let me make this final point clear, I understand the frustration that many people have here with any degree that can be earned by life experience evaluation, sans classroom work. I have an RA B.S. and am earning an RA M.B.A. My whole point is that SRU is unique in that it does have governmental approval and organizations are going to accept that no matter how weak the said government is. It's a loophole. This whole time I've been saying, "Look, this loophole works and people are going to take advantage of it because of the monetary rewards." When I said that I don't care what name is on my degree, I wasn't implying that I would use SRU, I was saying that I don't care if it's Bellevue, UIU or whatever. To me, the diploma is something to present to an employer to get more money. People are always balancing the usefullness or a degree by how difficult it is to get. That is why people here go to RA schools that are fully online. Or ones that are accelerated. If someone can get a degree from life experience evaluation, that is just one more step towards the "easier" side of the process. In the case of SRU, if there is acceptance on any level, that moves it to be more balanced on the usefullness side. It's an issue that is more complex that you guys would like to believe.

 

What

is WRONG with all of you???????????????????

This thread deteriorated into insults, claims of dishonesty, lack of integrity, analogies to postal workers, offense taken to some sort of reference to a maiming from a firecracker and last but not least an invitation to have a face to face conflict!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You guys even took the time to E mail a registrar to prove a point????????

You sound like my disfunctional extended family with all the infighting, control issues, criticisms and put downs. ( Which is why I keep them extended )

Sheesh!!!!!!!!!!

Gotta go now, I have some reading to do for my SRU DBA. (THIS aughta stir some responses)

Rafael ( who has learned to NOT care what anybody thinks )

BS Western state University, Fullerton, CA
JD " " ( ABA )
MBA Pepperdine, Malibu, CA
MS Kansas State University, KS ( 2004 )

 

Do you mean that all we simpletons without a degree mill degree or in their cheering section just aren't bright enough to figure it out. What a crock!

 

Re: What

Yeah, but the jokes on you. SRU DBA's dont require any reading! (Except of course, reading off the numbers on your credit card.)

You will let us know when we can start referring to you as Dr. Comemierda, won't you?

 

Re: Re: What

Speak no Spanish, just linguistically challenged French, but I don't think this is a good thing.

 

I KNEW

you would respond. Are you by any chance my COUSIN Gus? He's an idiot too. Boy, now I sound like you, I apologize.

You may call me Doctor as soon as I decide to let you.

Rafael (who really does NOT care but enjoys riling you up anyway)

BS Western state University, Fullerton, CA
JD " " ( ABA )
MBA Pepperdine, Malibu, CA
MS Kansas State University, KS ( 2003 )

 

None of which has a whit to do with SRU. SRU doesn't offer a degree from Liberia-- it's a degree from a mill with a simulated presence in Liberia. No physical presence (and yes, attempts *were* made to find it.) No recognition within its home town of Monrovia. No staff in Liberia. No teachers in Liberia. No students in Liberia or, as far as I can tell, no students anywhere-- just customers.

Unless calling a fraud a faud is non-PC, I see no problems on the horizon for emloyers who recognize SRU for what it is.

 

Colloquial Spanish 101

Pay attention, you will be quizzed later.

Although a literal translation of comemierda has both gastronomical and scatological implications, in reality, the term simply means fool and nothing more.

For example, the phrase "No comas mierda." translates to "Don't be foolish (or stupid)." And the phrase "Comi mierda." would be the equivalent of Homer Simpson's "Doh!" (which, incidentally, is in the Oxford English Dictionary).

End of lesson. Tomorrow we will learn how to properly pronounce 1955 Chevy.