Saint Regis University

Also, before the conspiracy theories start, I'm listed as the FROM and she is listed as the TO because this was about a 7 part email exchance between her and I. The email that I copied this from had the message thread reply from me at the top. That is why that is listed there. The actual date of her email to me was June 24th as well, at 11:21. If necessary, I can copy the original email instead of a thread of another. But I think the point is the same.

 

Atlas:

One thing you will not see much here is someone say they are wrong unless it is followed by the conjunction but. Whether the school is wrong for excepting SR degrees I do not know, and do not care because I know nothing about the school. I do however think you guys should call it a truce, and have a beer on me.

 

From Oregon Office of Degree Authorization


Warning regarding so-called "Liberian" degrees: Any degrees issued by St. Regis, Breyer State, Concordia, Knightsbridge or any other entity claiming to be authorized by the "National Board of Education" in Liberia are illegal for use in Oregon and should be regarded as not meeting the standards expected of a U.S. degree.

 

I think they would right for excepting a St Regis Degree.

 

Re: REPOST

Are you saying then that Bellevue never made the outrageous claim that after an investigation,
"that SRU has been found to meet the standards and equivalence of a US RA degree."?

Listen Mr. 1212, the above is nonsense. I can't imagine any real school or accrediting agency coming to that conclusion that you falsely claimed was made. There is a huge difference between the above outrageous statement and a school salesperson responding to a hypothetical question. Just like there's a big difference between getting the salesperson to say,
"Yes, we accept degrees from St. Regis University in Liberia. Their Bachelor degree is comparable to our U.S. bachelor degree the same for their master degrees."
and then actually getting accepted into a graduate program based on an SRU degree.

Now if you actually have a degree from SRU you're chance of getting into Bellevue or UIU by mistake has probably been significantly reduced because they both now know that SRU is a degree mill. I think that is for your own good anyway because they would likely find out before you had graduated and then you would probably be dropped from the program when they did find out.

 

BTW here's a link to the ODA web page that Dennis posted the quote from. It is illegal to use an SRU degree in Oregon.

http://www.osac.state.or.us/oda/unaccredited.html

 

Again, the point you are missing is that Kelly is a low level salesperson. While she may have emailed the Registrar, I can gurantee you she did not ask if they accepted the Liberian accredited school that requires no work known as Saint Regis. A simple follow up email by you would clear this up for you. The rest of us already know the answer. I wish you well, but hope neither you nor others are deceived about SRU.

P.S. It sounds like K-W will shortly be illegal in the fourth State. Any ideas when it will be 50?

 

Do you consider a ”7 part email exchance” to be “asking straight out?”

Moreover, what is the context and purpose of all this? Are you trying to seek admittance to a graduate program and shopping around for someone that will accept a St. Regis degree? Are you doing this research before or after having purchased a diploma from St. Regis?

 

Not soon enough.


Bruce

 

Everyone in this thread has really been great entertainment over the past few days. I sincerely wish to thank all of you. Sometimes a silly post even makes me laugh to tears, so a special thanks to Bruce for it this time.

 

Getting into the mix..

FYI:


These links may help "decide" this debate over St. Regis


http://www.unesco.org/cgi-bin/education/e_learning/search.cgi?query=St+Regis+University&submit.x=34&submit.y=21

http://www.usc.edu/dept/education/globaled/wwcu/background/Liberia.htm



Any word back about the e-mail?

 

Re: Getting into the mix..

There is no debate, just an attempt to rationalize a worthless degree.

Your websites show that St regis is not a recognized Liberian school.

The UNESCO site has bought and paid for ads from "schools" that I would be embarrassed to enroll my dog in.

 

Re: Re: Getting into the mix..

Dennis,
What ever happened to your cats? Did they get jobs as "stand up comedians" after graduating from SRU?

 

Huffman, still waiting for you to show us what you found. Let's keep in mind I'm not saying SRU is a great option, just that Bellvue accepts it. If you've heard the same, then I think an apology is in order for your accusation that I lied.

My guess is that Huffman has heard from them that they do accept it and is now in the "arguing" process to prove to them they are wrong. If this is the case, please show us all the email exchanges you've been having.

GUS: A 7 part email exchange about SOMETHING ELSE..not exclusively about SRU. I am an alumni of Bellevue. That was one part of the exchange. Plus, most of that exchange came in one day. Quit trying to find some Perry Mason moment here.

 

Wrong again Mr. 1212.

Here's five clues about what is going on here.
1. SRU is a degree mill.
2. Mr. 1212 (that would be you) started this thread and claimed, "Every single registrar told me that they would accept a degree from SRU for further graduate study. In fact, Bellevue and UIU told me specifically that this topic has been reviewed and that SRU has been found to meet the standards and equivalence of a US RA degree." The first sentence is no big deal. It simply means that they didn't bother checking out SRU to discover that it's a degree mill. The second sentence is the untrue statement.
3. The email that you posted from Bellevue does not corroborate the wild fabrication made in the second sentence.
4. There is no RA school in the country that would accept a SRU degree except by accident.
5. I'm really enjoying jerking your chain, especially because you seem to believe that being an academic fraud is okay as long as you can make more money by doing it.


As you should know, Bellevue has a web interface via the "Ask Me" interface so there's no record kept for what has been sent. I sent UIU two emails. The second was appended to the first so here's a copy of the second which contained the first.

**********start of email to UIU***********
Dear Sir,

I have not heard from you and thought that perhaps you were having some difficulty verifying St. Regis University of Liberia is not an institution of learning. Perhaps a link to the Oregon State Office of Degree Authorization might help.

It says,
"Warning regarding so-called "Liberian" degrees: Any degrees issued by St. Regis, Breyer State, Concordia, Knightsbridge or any other entity claiming to be authorized by the "National Board of Education" in Liberia are illegal for use in Oregon and should be regarded as not meeting the standards expected of a U.S. degree."

http://www.osac.state.or.us/oda/unaccredited.html

Regards,
Bill Huffman



Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 07:51:05 -0700
To: [email protected]
From: Bill Huffman <[email protected]>
Subject: Does UIU Accept St. Regis University Degrees

Dear Sir,

I have a question as to whether you actually accept degrees from the St. Regis University that claims accreditation from Liberia? Someone on a web forum stated,
"I emailed several schools, including Stanford, Harvard, UCLA and some of the more common RA online learning schools from John Bears book/website, such as Upper Iowa University for example. Every single registrar told me that they would accept a degree from SRU for further graduate study. In fact, Bellevue and UIU told me specifically that this topic has been reviewed and that SRU has been found to meet the standards and equivalence of a US RA degree."
http://www.degreeinfo.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=8933

What is especially troubling to me is the statement that you reviewed SRU and found their degrees to be acceptable. How can a degree mill that grants degrees based on nothing more than a simple resume and a large check be acceptable to you? Perhaps you weren't aware that Liberia is currently in a state of anarchy and chaos due to their crippling civil war. If so then perhaps you weren't aware that someone claiming to be part of the Liberian government is selling accreditation to degree mills for $50,000?

So I'm very interested in finding out if you have or would accept SRU degrees. Or even if you've told people in the past that you would accept SRU degrees. I believe that this issue should be cleared up because in my view the reputation of UIU has been tarnished.

Thank you for your attention to this matter.

Sincerely,
Bill Huffman
********end of all correspondence with UIU******

My email to Bellevue was very similar.

 

Were this a courtroom, I would ask the judge to instruct the witness to stop evading and answer the questions.

Why don't you answer direct questions? I thought you were advocating "straight out" questions. How about some "straight out" answers?

As an aside, kudos are in order for Bellevue University's admissions department for their exemplary customer service. It usually takes me several days to receive a response from most universities, yet, in a single day, you managed to receive six or seven replies to questions on several different subjects (not exclusively about SRU), some of which required research and the questioning of other individuals within the organization. Amazing!

 

Bellevue and St. Regis

For the record, I asked Bellevue's Provost, Dr. Mary Hawkins, about acceptance of St. Regis degrees. Her reply:

"We would not accept this degree."

 

Just bypassing all the middlemen and going right to the top! Why didn't I think of that? (Perhaps because it likely wouldn't have worked for me? )

Thanks!

 

John,

Thank you!


Bill,

Thank you! Keep-up the good fight. I too find it bothersome to see certain anonymous individuals use this forum to promote worthless so called degrees from dubious schools.

 

Personally I do not think any legitamate school should accept SRU degrees because after looking at their site you can clearly get a degree for doing absolutely nothing in the way of academic work. However, Atlas has basically conducted an experiment here, and has not at all taken up for SRU in this thread. Calling him a liar, and attacking his integrity is just not right. If the people he talked to made a mistake then they made a mistake.

I do not see in this thread where he sent the school a loaded question, or tried to give the answer he wanted to the question he was asking. I personally believe him, and think if you guys would have ask the same question he ask before all of this started that you would have gotten the same answer he got.