Any info on Hamilton and Madison University !

Any feedback on these two schools ?

 

I just saw an advertisement for Madison in the Southwest Airline magazine. They claim W.A.U.C. accreditation which is not a recognized accrediting body. From their web site their doctorate sells for $1995.00.

Hence, to be avoided!

I thought I once saw a Hamilton add in USA Today. If the same Hamilton, it is not recommended as it is unaccredited and not on par with accepted degree standards.

John

 

Hamilton is completely fake. Beyond doubt a degree mill. Madison operates legally in Louisiana, but the accreditation is worthless, and I believe there no properly-accredited university in America that would routinely accept their degrees.

With many hundreds of properly-accredited schools offering degrees of all kinds, there is no reason to take the risk of getting an unaccredited degree.

John Bear http://www.degree.net

 

From another thread:

Originally posted by tcnixon:
MIGS is now on the list of schools that cannot legally be used in Oregon.

Originally posted by me:
In fact, the list boasts many of the absolute worst degree mills in history, from what Dr. Bear and others have said in the past.

Originally posted by tcnixon:
Just to clarify, John has rarely publicly called a school a degree mill. I believe this is why he has used the term, "less-than-wonderful".

Originally posted by me:
I would be surprised if the good doctor did not admit referring to a number of schools on that list as "mills" at one time or another.

Back to this thread:

Just to clarify, Tom, Dr. Bear - as I stated earlier - uses the "degree mill" term on occasion. As well he should. "Less-than-wonderful" should be reserved for just that - a school which is merely less than wonderful, not a blatant degree mill. Even though I've called CCHS a degree mill repeatedly, they really only have a good deal of "millishness" about them due to their fraudulent business practices, and are obviously not a complete and total mill. Therefore, I personally will refer to CCHS as "less than wonderful" from now on, because that is what the school deserves. (Once again, that label can not be applied to every CCHS or Harcourt employee - really only a small minority. But since that small minority is making the executive decisions to defraud consumers...)

Originally posted by John Bear:
Hamilton is completely fake. Beyond doubt a degree mill.

 

Excellent feedback!!!

Russell

 

I have the 15-page "Madison University" catalog on my desk.

To quote Nero Wolfe: "Pfui."

Just over half of it (9 pages) is course names with brief descriptions -- very generic.

Nothing about faculty or administration -- not even any names, except the signature "M.R. Mousighi" on a letter from the "Chief Executive Officer." A couple of mentions of WAUC accreditation, along with a teeny reproduction of the certificate -- no mention that WAUC is not recognized by the US Department of Education. Long list of majors, from Accounting to Theocentric Counseling.

One odd note: Stamped on the back is

MADISON UNIVERSITY
A Distance Education Corporation

Corporation? Hmm -- searching at Mississippi's Secretary of State website, there is an April 26, 2000 filing to reserve the name of "MADISON UNIVERSITY - A CORRESPONDENCE EDUCATION COMPANY" with a business type MLLC MS LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY -- but no other info (no address, registered agent, or officers).

If you want your own catalog, click on "Application" at http://www.madisonu.com/


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Kristin Evenson Hirst
DistanceLearn.About.com

 

Hamilton U

I have Dr. Bear's book and in it he details his experience with
Hamilton. In my case, they asked me to take a course in business ethics, and told me I had to write a dissertation of at least 2,000 words in length.
Now, if my undergraduate, graduate and graduate work are taken into consideration. Also my work experience as an executive and the fact that I'd study post graduate books on business to help me write a killer dissertation, maybe then some worthy university could help me get the recognition I'd earn based on the advanced coursework and dissertation. The question is wha'ts really needed to get a quality doctorate that teaches usable subject matter beyond the Masters level?
Richard Green
MSM
Boston University/Ben Gurion University of the Negev
Beer Sheba, Israel, 1986
BS, Business, Management, and Economics
Empire State College, SUNY 1985