IUFS - International University of Fundamental Studies

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  1. I would like to add to IUFS writeup in the Bears guide.

    IUFS is Licensed in Russian Federation.

    Licensing in Russia
    Licensing is a procedure whereby an educational institution is granted the
    right to carry out educational programmes in relevant fields of study
    (specialities) and at corresponding levels of education. It consists of the
    recognition of expertise, the taking of decisions, and the issuing of a duly
    worded authorization, i.e., a license.
    Licensing is based on the results of an evaluation carried out by expert
    commissions that are composed of representatives of educational authorities
    (federal and local), educational institutions, and the public. The aim of the
    evaluation is to determine whether or not conditions for the implementation of
    educational programmes at a given educational establishment correspond to state
    and local requirements with regard to construction norms and rules, sanitary
    and hygienic standards, possibilities for health care for students and academic
    staff, the equipping of the premises and the teaching and learning processes
    with the proper infrastructure, the staffing of the institution, and the
    educational qualifications of the academic staff. The content, organization,
    and methodologies of the teaching and learning processes are not included in
    this evaluation. The license is issued by the state education authorities or,
    on their behalf, by the local (municipal) education authorities on the basis of
    the conclusions of the expert commission. This licensing procedure has no
    equivalent in the western European countries but is somewhat comparable to California
    state licensing procedures in the United States of America.
    Even though licensing grants the right to engage in educational activities, it
    does not confer the right to award educational certificates of the state format
    certifying graduation from an educational institution. In order to earn this
    right, an educational institution must be accorded state accreditation.
     
  2. More info - the negative info was noted.
    Some positive about IUFS

    What gives IUFS authority to grant academic degrees in Russian Federation?
    What authority has IUFS to use Russian Federation State seal on their Diplomas?
    IUFS would loose their State License if they had no authority to do what they
    do.
    Only State Accredited Universities may do so and it takes 4 to 7 years after
    achieving license to get State Accreditation is Russia.
    How is it that graduate from IUFS can be accepted in any other Russian
    university?

    The answer to the above questions is that Russian Federation Ministry of
    General and Professional Education, department of foreign credential evaluation
    by UNESCO Guidelines for the Recognition of Qualifications from the other
    countries in the Russian Federation approves IUFS as International University
    with recognized accreditation that is equivalent to Russian State
    Accreditation.

    With membership in Russian Academy of Science and International Inter-academic
    Union the IUFS students can be recommended to The Supreme Certifying Commission
    Of Russian Federation For Doctoral degrees of State Format.

    IUFS is actively working on State Accreditation status in Russian Federation.
    Wile not all IUFS accreditations are recognized in Russian Federation only one
    recognized accreditation is needed.



    Guidelines for the Recognition of Qualifications from the other European
    Countries in the Russian Federation
    The guidelines put forward both for the recognition of foreign qualifications
    in the Russian Federation and of Russian qualifications in the other European
    countries are based on the idea that an educational qualification giving access
    to educational programmes of a certain level in the home country should also
    give access to educational programmes of a comparable level in the host
    country.
    In addition, the guidelines take into account the concept of "recognition
    unless substantial differences can be demonstrated" in conformity with the
    Joint Council of Europe/UNESCO Draft Convention on the Recognition of
    Qualifications Concerning Higher Education in the Europe Region, to be adopted
    in 1997. In case of such substantial differences, the solution should be sought
    on the basis of bilateral agreements or on an individual basis.
    Quality Assurance in Higher Education in the Russian Federation
    (published within the UNESCO-CEPES series Papers on Higher Education
    <../papers_arch.htm>)
    Oleg Kouptsov and Yuri Tatur
    Bucharest: UNESCO-CEPES, 2001
     
  3. uncle janko

    uncle janko member

    Before everybody starts screaming...interesting insights into the exact meaning of another country's terminology. Thanks for the important posts.
     
  4. I want to post a correction.

    There are Universities in Russia that got their accreditation in one year from license and one of them in even shorter time.

    So I was wrong when I wrote 4 to 7 years.

    I will post another update on IUFS, there may be a certificate of Accreditation isued.

    I will verify that after examining the certificate and confirning it.
     
  5. John Bear

    John Bear Senior Member

    Proof of pudding = eating

    Value of accrediting/licensing/whatever = acceptance.

    There are something like 6,000 properly accredited degree-granting schools in the US. I wonder if IUFS can name even one that has a policy of accepting their degrees or courses? Even one? I am not aware of one, but then I don't know everything, yet.

    I have asked that question of His Excellency Plenipotentiary, The Honorable Reverend Patriarch, Chancellor Bishop Doctor Chief Alexander Swift Eagle Justice, D.D., Ph.D., J.D., but did not receive an answer.
     
  6. Bill Highsmith

    Bill Highsmith New Member

    Dr. Bear, is this some sort of subliminal plug for your cookbook, Not Your Mother's Cookbook, available at major retailers everywhere for a very reasonable price?
     
  7. I have very high respect to Dr. Bear.

    And I value his expert opinion followed with so many years
    of experience in the DL arena.

    My post was supplemental and not critical.

    I think that in the past non of RA schools would accept IUFS.

    But with the time things change and if IUFS earns proper accreditation then it will be equivalent to RA school in USA.

    Just like some schools in USA had unrecognized accreditation until they became DETC accredited and moved to a better - Accredited section in the Bears Guide.

    I believe if CCU in CA was written as CA State approved than IUFS that has Russian Approval should be included in the write up.
    and not only the negative.
     
  8. Proof of pudding = eating

    Dear readers in the group I earned D.L Masters degree from IUFS.

    Sr. Business Analyst - Intel Corp Folsom, CA USA

    Universities that will acept IUFS credits to transfere:

    Keele University UK
    The University College of North Staffordshire was founded in 1949 to become the University of Keele in 1962.

    University of Birmingham UK

    Open Universiteit Nederland

    Technical University of Cluj Napoca - Romania

    Tokyo Gakugei University - Japan

    University of Bradford - UK

    University of Bristol

    University of Buckingham

    University of Helsinki

    University of Hull

    University of Mining and Metallurgy in Cracow - Poland

    University of St. Andrews

    University of Tromsø

    University of Turku


    One have no problem to transfere credit from IUFS to colaborating university no its not ITU but very respectful and world class St. Petersburg State University of Aerospace Instrumentation.

    The ITU conection is only for faculty of Theology and IUAA.

    Faculty of Computer Science and Faculty of Aviation and Aerospace Instrumentation are jointly collaboration centers with the St. Petersburg State University of Aerospace Instrumentation.


    Advisory Committee of IUFS


    Dvas. G. , D.Sc.,Hon. Vice-Governor of the Government of the Leningrad Area, The Chairman the State Committee of Economics & Investment.

    Gogal A., D.Sc, Prof., Rector of the State University of Telecommunication.

    Pruskoryakov R.,D.Sc, Prof., Vice Rector of the IUFS, Ex-Chairman of the State Committee of Higher Education and Science in St.Petersburg.

    Vysochin Yu, D.Sc., Prof., Director of the Research Institute of Health & Sport

    Rev. Chief Swift Eagle, DD., PhD., J.D. Professor, President International Theological University, CA, USA

    Galtsev Yu., D.Sc., Prof., State Law Academy

    Shiryaev G.V. , PhD., Professor, Vice President of the International Academy ICCIA
     
  9. uncle janko

    uncle janko member

    I, uh, chiefly want to know: how do you say "crushingly incongruous" in Russian?
     
  10. uncle janko

    uncle janko member

    It all looks respectable (whether is or is not is another thing) till you get to the Chief. Suppose you were looking at a list of American university administrators and there, bang in the middle, was some purported Chukchi accordion player. Long before hiring the fellow to play at your sister's wedding, before checking the hecksher on the Chukchi to see if he's a kosher Chukchi and not some mountebank from Irkutsk with a funny hat and a kazoo,
    you wonder what he's doing in the list at all--and what his presence says about the list.
     
  11. BillDayson

    BillDayson New Member

    A trip to Google reveals:

    American Coastline U. is now a unit of IUFS.

    http://www.amercoastuniv.edu/

    The list of institutions that supposedly accept credits from IUFS looks like a sanitized version of this spurious "accreditor's" list of accredited schools:

    http://www.eqac.org/institutions.htm

    IUFS is also "accredited" by this wonder:

    http://www.nahighered.org/ADLPAffiliations.htm

    And by this one too:

    http://www.accrediting.com/

    It's a member of the prestigious World Scientific Association:

    http://www.wsa-ru.org/

    Here's something interesting: a Pakistani website that claims to be from Peshawar Pakistan (!!!), apparently no longer be working, but which is cached at Google, in which somebody claims that Richard J. Hoyer is the CEO of Warnborough U. and that Am. Coastline and IUFS are its subsidiaries.

    http://www.nitb.edu.pk

    Although it has been removed from the latest version, the cached versions of St. Regis' website refers to IUFS as its Russian branch. Here's another page with that connection:

    http://www.universityservices.net/degreesbyexam/contact.htm

    Here's a page in which Chief Swift Eagle not only solves the Israeli-Palestinian dispute, but reveals that he is a Russian cosmonaut!

    http://www.globaltradeconsortium.com/palestine-israel.htm

    Here's Richard J. Hoyer DBA Global Capital LLC trying to find investors for some Russian projects.

    http://www.globalcap.org/projects.htm

    Kingdom College of Natural Health is affiliated with IUFS.

    http://www.kcnh.org/catalogue/missionss.html

    Here are the members of the prestigious Oxford Educational Network.

    http://www.oxfordeducationalnetwork.org/members.htm

    Here's a Sri Lankan trade scheme of theirs:

    http://www.ceylontrade.com/concept.htm
     
  12. Bill hi,

    Very good job, I'm sure there is more.

    But you noticed that in the new version things changed.
    Why no more connection to St. Ragis?

    We all remember AICS in US - it was a source of many negative posts in the past with the bogus accreditation for a long time.

    Now that its DETC accredited the number of negative posts went down. Even with a new name they are not doing so well.

    IUFS is in Russia and not USA.

    A rector in Russia is earning $60 US in comparison 5 years ego
    $100 US.
    The economic situation is deferent and its impossible to explain it if one didn't reside there for a wile.

    The Educational institutions in RF are so underfunded that they have to be very innovative in order to survive.

    The question is how good is their education?
    How well the graduates are doing.
     
  13. I read a nice verse in a book that tells before one tries to remove a spec from his brothers eye he should remove a LOG from his eye.

    In general we are so blessed in USA.
    Our system is one of the best.

    Do you know how mach it costs just to keep the class warm
    in the winter in St. Petersburg? And were the money is coming from? Not to talk about other things that we take for granted here.
    Just visit the web site of Russian Federation Ministry of Education,
    and read on the many problems they have.
     
  14. uncle janko

    uncle janko member

    I hear accordion music, but nevermind.

    I appreciate what you say about the economic difficulties in Russia and can readily understand that people resort to dubious strategies in order to make ends meet.

    Here's my problems with IUFS:

    Now, still, dubious associates in the "west"--why not dump 'em? The Chief--and Hoyer, and others--are undistinguished, problematic, and don't enhance IUFS' image at all.

    For a heavily computer-oriented school, the website is like Oblomov's attic--nobody's sorted anything out, ever, apparently. It's one of the worst messes I've seen (perhaps by design).

    The certificates are pathetic and the phony accreditors worse than that--simply reproducing the operating license or whatever IUFS actually truly has from the Russian Federation would be more honest and more respectable, too.

    A careful historical explanation of the novelty of a private university in Russia and candor about the present legal status of IUFS are absolutely needed.

    If IUFS had a clearly defined set of academic intentions it would help.

    If the Russian administrative personnel and professors listed their degrees and the universities they attended, as well as their current or recent positions and honors, it would help.

    On the plausibility factor, an explanation of how the gentleman from the Indian subcontinent came to be the rector of a university in St Petersburg would help.

    In short, using the difficulties of the present situation in RF as an excuse for incoherence of presentation is a no-go. If IUFS shifts from Rococo to Bauhaus in its website, and if it gets away from the forest of non-wonderful western connections, and if it clearly explains what its DL offerings are, the Carpathian peasant would be very happy to give it the benefit of the doubt.

    So far, though, not so good. The accordion sounds like a kazoo.
     
  15. BillDayson

    BillDayson New Member

    So am I.

    The point is this:

    I found Nothing of a scholarly nature for IUFS. No research webpages. No academic papers published or books written. No presentations at academic conferences. No grants won. No external collaborations (except with their own enterprises). No awards or academic recognition except that awarded by themselves. No credible professional organizations referring to them on independent sites.

    What I did find was a web of very doubtful connections that do nothing to build confidence.

    That's why I'm unmoved by the names of what may or may not be prominent Russians. (I have no way of knowing.) I can easily imagine individuals agreeing to having their names listed, for a fee. They have families to feed and have to be innovative.

    Frankly, I'm not even convinced that the IUFS exists in Russia, and isn't just a shell.

    That's why I find the 'Google test' so revealing. A legitimate university has a recognizable signature, and IUFS doesn't seem to have anything remotely close. For that reason alone I'm skeptical. My skepticism increases dramatically when I consider its accreditation claims and associations.
     
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  16. Hi,
    I appreciate your reply and your points of view.

    IUFS is new they are not like Moscow State or others with reach
    history that is over many centuries.

    Many completely accredited and legitimate school would not pass
    your criteria from Russia or USA.

    Here in US we rank schools -- top 20 top100 top1000.

    Well, the same is in Russia.

    I will do the same search on other schools here and Russia
    after work today.

    As far as why a person from India runs the IUFS?

    Russia and India are very close friends, many exchange students
    learn in Russian Universities.

    The Rector of IUFS is married to Eugenia who is Russian.

    So is Ramnik my friend who is a project manager in a US company.

    When I was growing up in former Soviet Union the movies from India were very popular.

    I have seen 100s of them and know songs in one of their dialect.

    Rage Kapur was an and still now a star in Russia.

    My point is they are new and in survival mode.
    A person may chose another school.

    I have 3 degrees 2 of them are from very traditional and old established schools and one from IUFS.

    I hope that with the positive will outwaigt the negative.

    Like IUFS in charge of Healt of Nation program of RF President.

    I read many good and constructive criticism on this issue
    and make sure it gets to IUFS rector.

    Regards
     
  17. Guest

    Guest Guest

    Its really quite simple.

    When it comes to IUFS, let me plagiarize one of my academic textbooks.

    Jane.
    See Jane.
    See Jane Run.
    Run, Jane, Run!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  18. uncle janko

    uncle janko member

  19. Well the academy that you posted has license and accreditation.

    But they are considered incomplete.

    In order to be recognized in Russia as comolete they need
    State Atestation.

    Isued by Russian Ministry of Education.

    So they got 2 out of the 3 required steps.

    I looked ar the web site, its informative, links to all the affiliates.
    Arcive of documents.

    Very nicely organized web site.

    Very good first impresion.

    Misha
     

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