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  1. tadj

    tadj Active Member

    I think we live in different moral universes. In your universe, it is harmful to use a the descriptor ‘trans’ when the person’s entire health intervention philosophy is based around the promotion of this concept. In my universe, the potential harm done to kids by this person far outweighs concerns over the inappropriate usage of a single word in a news article. Rachel [ToS violation removed] Levine is known for engaging in egregious falsehood promotion; https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/rachel-levines-spectacular-mendacity-or-ignorance/ and deserves the strongest condemnation.

    Other links: https://www.thefp.com/p/gender-affirming-care-dangerous-finland-doctor
     
  2. Jonathan Whatley

    Jonathan Whatley Well-Known Member

    That National Review article is based, tenuously, on this passage from Levine's interview with NPR:
    The NR quotes only the 26-word final sentence of Levine's passage to pounce on the idea that Levine denies there's debate among medical professionals about how to achieve trans care.

    But the full passage shows her position is significantly more nuanced than the position the NR attributes to her. She agrees with studies cited by Florida that more research is needed! She volunteers herself that standards of care "change over time as the research changes."
     
  3. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    You have no clue what you are talking about. It is good that you're concerned about children's welfare. But people are not interested in harming children in this manner. I have a trans son (40 years old). No one except my son wanted him to be male. Of course we support his decision. He came out as gay when he was 17. A few years later he came out as trans.

    Your statements are best assumed to be ignorant. The alternative explanations are all much worse.
     
  4. tadj

    tadj Active Member

    Okay, so you have a trans son. I am sure you love the person. That doesn't change the fact there is a debate in the medical community.
     
  5. tadj

    tadj Active Member

    You also accused me of being ignorant...about what specifically? For example, what do you object to in this method of intervention, which is becoming more common in Europe: https://archive.is/IRShy ?
     
  6. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    Note to all on this subject: deadnaming violates the terms of service.
     
  7. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    There is not a real debate about Transsexualism being a real thing. Just like there is not a real debate about homosexuality being a real thing. Just because there are ignorant people that don't know any better and don't believe it, that doesn't make it a debate. Similar to the "debate" that climate change is mostly man made. Or the "debate" that Covid19 vaccines change your DNA.

    On the other hand, one might reasonably say that scientific debate is healthy and part of the ongoing scientific process. There can be debates about the best way to treat diabetes. Just like there can be good healthy debates about the best treatments for transsexuals. For example, should transsexuals best see a psychologist before treatment. How long should they harbor transsexual feelings before starting hormone treatment. ETC.

    I tried to go back and reread your post that I was responding to to try to reverify your meaning but couldn't find it.
     
  8. tadj

    tadj Active Member

    Who's debating that on our board?

    Really? You mean like the one that I reffered to here (https://archive.is/IRShy) or here (https://www.thefp.com/p/gender-affirming-care-dangerous-finland-doctor) or is that one off-limits?

    So which statement of mine are you objecting to? I am lost.
     
  9. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    It seemed to me that you were arguing that some trans people were trying to intervene/force/trick other people into being trans. I mentioned that I couldn't find your original post. I now conclude that your original post that I responded to has been deleted.
     
  10. tadj

    tadj Active Member

    I'll now stick to the education-related topics on this board. My political contribution was rather short-lived. It's over. I have no interest in writing things and then noticing how they were deleted. Feel free to discuss these issues with individuals who are "safe."
     
  11. Jonathan Whatley

    Jonathan Whatley Well-Known Member

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