Cheap Chinese EVs are coming

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  1. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    • Chinese brands have mastered quality and affordability on EVs.

    • After years of eyeing the American market, Chinese brands are poised to arrive.

    • Competition from Chinese brands is "very, very real."
    "After years of preparation, Chinese car companies are poised to upend the US electric-vehicle market.

    Industry watchers say it's only a matter of time before Chinese automakers bring their impressive — and importantly, inexpensive — electric cars to the US. After years of threatening to set up shop on American shores, the companies are closer than ever to making the move to the US.

    On their home turf, Chinese companies have already vanquished their American competitors, eating up market share from the likes of Ford and General Motors by offering better quality and less expensive electric cars for shoppers. They've started exporting a slew of brands to Europe too."
    One of China's most popular EVs is the Wuling Hong Guang Mini, a minuscule city car that costs the equivalent of $5,000. At the Shanghai auto show last month, BYD launched a stylish, pint-sized hatchback called the Seagull with 190 miles of estimated range. Its starting price? Less than $11,000.
    https://www.yahoo.com/news/goodbye-us-car-market-know-172452290.html
     
  2. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    ... originally said by a spokesman for the Chinese Auto Industry, in all probability.

    Keep your Nios, Cherys and Geelys, China. You may. or may not have learned to make cars - but you can't fight public perception. Or the US Government. A Chinese car, bought here, is a vote for Xi.

    I've always had a soft spot for the Beauty Leopard --- but no... not nowadays.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geely_BL
     
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  3. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    Johann,

    What do you think ?

     
  4. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    The video is interesting. And Peter Zeihan isn't some crank. Although like any prognosticator, his predictions should be taken with a grain of salt.
     
  5. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member


    When the Last Tree Is Cut Down, the Last Fish Eaten, and the Last Stream Poisoned, You Will Realize That You Cannot Eat Money

    (Alanis Obomsawin? Prophecy of the Cree Indians? Osage saying? Sakokwenonkwas? Greenpeace? Anonymous? Apocryphal?
    I think that moving the wheat industry to other provinces is a bad idea - one of quite a few bad ideas here.
    Adn if they so much as TOUCH one stalk of Alberta Rye -- I'll sic Forty Creek Distillery on them! Even though I haven't drunk any in 18-19 years...

    "If you don't do exactly as I say (insert doom scenario here) will happen - at 4:30 a.m. next Friday. Seen it before. Steve F. says this guy's not a crank. So, I'll believe Steve. But to me, he's definitely crank-ish. Probably WILDLY popular in Alberta.

    And, FYI - if there IS a world-wide wheat crop failure - just ONE - we're all dead in a year, no matter what.
     
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  6. Rachel83az

    Rachel83az Well-Known Member

    I'm sure "all" is an exaggeration, but it won't be good. It looks like we're headed that way, though.
     
  7. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Yep - global crop failures by 2035. 4 degrees C. rise by 2065 - that's what they say. They ALSO say "at 4 degrees (rise) most humans will be dead." That's what "Climate Ben" Ben See, a literature teacher, says on Twitter. Maybe this is why I don't read Twitter.
    https://twitter.com/ClimateBen/status/1386042740136349700

    Hmmm - maybe those Chinese EV's won't matter much in the long run. Nobody left to make 'em, - or to buy 'em. Anywhere.
     
  8. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    While climate change is a serious problem, longer term I'm more worried about microplastics.
     
  9. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    If climate change is as drastic and as imminent as Ben See says -- there is no longer term, for us humans.
     
  10. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    Like fusion, our collective demise has been "twenty years away" my whole life.

    I'm reminded of historian Edward Gibbon's observation about the belief in the imminent end of the world, that "however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, has not been found agreeable to experience."
     
  11. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    We will adjust.
    How many of us and how it will be done, I cant tell but there are past echos of civilizations rebirths on this planet.
    What was will be.
    Now a lot of alarm sounding is like the boy who cried wolf. At some point apathy takes over.
    We were supposed by this time be out of oil, and in the oblivion.
    Time will show, when I don't know. But we shouldn't undermine importance of being prepared for real dangers.
    Life goes on.
     
  12. SweetSecret

    SweetSecret Well-Known Member

    I'm likely going to need to buy a new car in the next year and a half. The only thing that has been even partly interesting to me has been Alibaba's IM L7. For so many reasons though that's not going to be happening.
     

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