Saint Leo University

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  1. Stanislav

    Stanislav Well-Known Member

  2. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    Yet another accredited school no one's ever heard of. Seems unremarkable, except for the rather high price.
     
  3. Stanislav

    Stanislav Well-Known Member

    This is, of course, accurate. It is accredited and not particularly well known. I would not say that it is remarkable for its high price, though. Prices are rather unremarkable. Rather, it is not one of the schools we discuss here precisely because their prices are remarkably low; ie., there are several AACSB-accredited MBA programs that are a good deal cheaper.
    I am looking for some more subtle perceptions. Assume this is for someone in general area of the school, in position to get a nice discount on the price (or even employer tuition benefit). Also, what would be a perception of this school for a traditional student (college-age, on campus, fulltime)? Again, assuming a discount from listed price (which I understand the school readily provides to a good portion of its University Campus enrollment)? I long felt that nonelite LACs like this one, in general, are not worth the sticker price; then again, not everyone pays sticker price.
     
  4. chrisjm18

    chrisjm18 Well-Known Member

    Really now? I think Saint Leo is very well-known because of its presence in the online education space. As far as its Tampa area campus, that's a different story.
     
  5. Stanislav

    Stanislav Well-Known Member

    My doctoral advisor from FSU heard about them but didn't know about the campus. He thought the school is fully online. It's a 100 year old Catholic university with a Franciscan monastery on campus. But yes, online presence is significant.
     
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  6. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    "No one's ever heard of" isn't meant to be taken either literally or absolutely. It's supposed to express the reality that, with more than 3,500 degree-granting colleges and universities in the U.S., most schools have no particular reputation.

    Also, note that a nondescript degree from a (relatively, okay?) little-known school doesn't mean it's not a good idea or that it is somehow a generic experience. For example, my MBA is from such a school, and I had a terrific learning experience there.

    In my PhD research experiment, I had participants (HR professionals) rate the acceptability degrees from a purposeful sample of schools. I had an RA school, DETC-accredited, state-approved, state authorized, unaccredited, and a notorious diploma mill. Eleven in all. The school that came out the highest was the RA school: what was then called Southwest Texas State. Second: a notorious diploma mill, Columbia State. Comments indicated that, while people hadn't heard of these schools, they felt those two sounded the most solid. (Likely because the both evoked "state" in their names.)

    And look back at this board's history and how much discussion has been around the names of schools (including a thread that is active right now). The point is that most schools are unknown to most HR managers, and even more obscure to hiring managers. St Leo University, St Bialystock, whatever.
     
  7. Stanislav

    Stanislav Well-Known Member

    Noted.
    Byalystock Poly is actually a major public university in Poland.
    Points taken. As names go, I believe St. Leo is a strong one; St. Pope Leo the Great is a major historical figure, and it leads directly to nice athletic mascot (Leo the Lion). It strongly signals at the school's private, Catholic identity.
    How do people generally perceive degrees from non-household-name private, Catholic universities? Good? Bad? Neutral? Both for a mid-career MBA student and for a traditional-age on-campus one. I noticed on some Facebook groups people seem to have a(n unfair) bias against public universities (except state flagships and schools with big name football programs) in favor of private ones. Will that make a degree from a small nonelite LAC competitive with one from larger, better known public universities (eg., local behemoth University of South Florida, which I respect a whole lot)? Or the bias only benefits somewhat-known programs?

    I am considering enrollment into their MBA program. For me it will have exactly zero career impact; I merely will go from having 5 university degrees to having 6. So St. Leo is clearly good enough for my goals; doing it or not will boil down to motivation.
     
  8. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    Having worked for one, I'd consider a generic Catholic university to be perfectly fine, with that identity not being a significant plus or minus relative to other non-profit universities that are serviceable but not nationally known.
     
  9. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    "Good morning. Bialystock and Blum."
     
  10. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    I think that's Bialystok and Bloom, Nosborne.

    The producers of "Springtime for Hitler" don't seem to run a theatrical site any more -- but their restaurant is here. Nice=looking place. https://bialystokbloom.com/ It's in Rockville Centre, NY
     
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  11. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    Good catch!:D
     
  12. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Thanks!
     
  13. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    I first learned how to spell Bialystok from Sholem Aleichem stories, 60+ years ago, while I was in high school. I heard one or two on the radio, then went looking in the library. I also learned how to spell Kazrilevka (also spelled Kazrilevke) and Yehupetz from the same source. Bialystok is real, of course, in Poland. Kazrilevka is an imaginary place based on Kyiv. Yehupetz is totally fictional, a shtetl (Jewish town) located "right in the middle of that blessed Pale."

    I still love those stories.
     
    Last edited: Mar 30, 2023
  14. Futuredegree

    Futuredegree Well-Known Member

    They are a known school. My friend's stepdaughter goes there she is a cheerleader studying nursing. The campus is pretty big and nice as well, they compete in NCAA division 2 which is not bad.
     

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