DaVinci Business School Doctorate in Business Leadership & Doctorate in Management in Tech and Innov

This school was mentioned on the California Coast University thread. It is an accredited South African School. The total fees of the doctorates they offer is just over $10,000 US.

Doctor of Business in Leadership

Doctor of Management in Technology and Innovation

https://www.davinci.ac.za/doctor-of-management-in-technology-and-innovation

Faculty

https://www.davinci.ac.za/faculty

 

Suddenly recalling Rich's experience with a Foreign Credential evaluator. Probably worth avoiding that one.

This has a definite research component. Wonder how they would classify the Doctor of Management?

 

I don't necessarily agree. I was blindsided by WES and their insane "policy." But...

It is worth checking ahead of time if such a thing is important. Note that the school and the degree are listed by the SAQA. The SAQA considers it a doctorate in their framework. But who knows was the lunatics and WES would do? (And it's worth talking to more than one agency, or any other one than WES.)

I don't know if that matters to WES. My degree had a huge, traditional, and scholarly (not practice) thesis requirement. They ignored that.

 

I suspect the percentage here at DegreeInfo is quite a bit larger. That is, of course, the audience for that post.

 

The 5% figure doesn't represent an accurate portrayal of the audience. In fact, the inverse might be closer to the truth.

I often wonder about that fringe, but I don't strive to include it because it is so small and I don't know it anyway. This board's conversations are almost entirely centered around the US. And even when non-US schools are discussed, they're almost always done so from a US perspective.

While it's technically true that there are non-Americans (or non-North Americans, if that's better) posting on this board, they're not really a significant portion of the audience--even though every single individual is, indeed, significant.

Rather than cast a wide net over what is mostly non-existent, I'd rather limit my comments to the majority of readers, especially since I'm not particularly qualified to view issues from others' perspectives. And I don't see the utility of carving out a caveat regarding non-US perspectives each time I post something. That is better left to others.

For example, I have no idea what issues a person outside the US might face regarding degrees from non-US schools--whether they be recognized, proprio, or whatever. Perhaps people who do and are readers/posters here will offer those perspectives. And that's where the significance will emerge.

 

I so second that. People defer to WES way too much. These folks do not bestow a degree on you; they just issue an opinion. I met people who did not put their foreign degrees on a resume without evaluation. One guy who said "but I don't have a degree in THIS country" had a PhD from Moscow Physics and Technology Institute, which is perhaps THE top school in mordor for his stuff (Applied Math). Who cares what WES thinks?

 

Not me. But unfortunately, I'm led to believe there are some big-time employers who do. Lamentable, but....

 

In Canada, there are only a few evaluation agencies. This makes WES more relevant. Still, I believe I only needed the evaluation once - for Revenue Canada.

In any case, you have a degree regardless of whether it's evaluated or not. For a clearly recognized degree, I would not get an evaluation unless explicitly required. In which case, I would only go with WES in there's no other choice. They can be wrong. WES Canada is wrong about DEAC degrees; WES New York is blatantly, laughably wrong about Dr. Douglas' doctorate. Those Da Vinci degrees are clearly legitimate, even if WES will dream up some excuse to reject them.

 

By way of clarification, I meant avoid WES not the degree program (which is both accredited and affordable). Rich's case with WES is an example of a combination of bureaucracy and lack of analytical ability possibly coupled with stubbornness (all on WESs part). Invincible ignorance. And they make you pay for it too.

 

Indeed they are. And likely, horribly wrong about many other things, besides. I have boundless sympathy for anyone who MUST have a WES evaluation (because some pen-pushing idiot says so). To hope for WES ever to see the error of its ways is, I think, an exercise in futility. Best I can say is - A pox on them, their heirs and assigns forever, and their flacks, flunkies, lackeys and sycophants in perpetuity. Unfortunately, my best and most vile curses are not fit for this forum.

 

I think I'm in a unique position to comment about the incompetent absurdity that is WES. I won't rehash the whole thing, but here is one irony from it.

My PhD is from a school no one has ever heard of, Union Institute and University. It is more than 50 years old now and regionally accredited. In other words, it meets the standard asshats like WES use to evaluate foreign (non-US) degrees. Well, Union isn't ranked by anyone anywhere in the world. But Leicester, where I also earned a doctorate, is ranked in the top 200 in the world by the Times. Yet, my doctorate from Leicester is garbage to them. Idiots.

 

Yes. Very odd (and stupid).